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[MERIT] 01-01-2018 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1910032)
Church

Quote me proper in that stuff homie!

MicShazam 01-01-2018 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1909986)
Whenever I hear stories of cops or soldiers getting killed, I normally have ZERO sympathy. With all of the crooked cops and the war machine that is the military industrial complex, they usually have it coming.

County Sheriff's are the only "law enforcement" officers that are directly elected by the public, so they usually get a bit of a pass in my book [EDIT: not a pass to break the law, but more sympathy I mean]

I think it is, by it's nature, a very difficult thing to consider what to feel about the police and the military. At least if you're being realistic about it.

On one hand, cops and soldiers do actually keep us safe. That is not up for debate. On the other hand, you also know that most cops and soldiers are going to serve their government, no matter if it asks them to do good or "evil". The police and the military are not inherently a moral entity. They are merely lackeys that will do good if commanded to do so, but also the opposite with equal conviction.

Then there's abuses of power and such, but that's peanuts in the big picture (which sounds like I don't think it matters, but that is not the case).

OccultHawk 01-01-2018 11:17 AM

No soldiers no war

Chula Vista 01-01-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1909986)
Whenever I hear stories of cops or soldiers getting killed, I normally have ZERO sympathy.

Back to the offensive part. Went so far as to capitalize the word zero.

Every single person who is a cop or serving in the military has maybe a mother, a father, sisters, brothers, a spouse, kids, close friends, cousins, comrades, etc.

Let's say there's 50,000 rotten cops roaming the streets. Do you have ZERO sympathy for the other 95% of them out there doing their job?

The vast majority of the military are folks trained to follow orders - no questions asked. The vast majority of them are decent people. I'll have ZERO sympathy when Dick Cheney dies.

"Forward he cried, from the rear, and the front rank died."

[MERIT] 01-01-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1910173)
Every single person who is a cop or serving in the military has maybe a mother, a father, sisters, brothers, a spouse, kids, close friends, cousins, comrades, etc.

So do rapists and murderers, so . . .

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1910173)
The vast majority of the military are folks trained to follow orders - no questions asked.

That's the problem. They follow orders like brainless twats, regardless of the morality of the orders.

Murder is wrong, unless you have a badge or are told to do so by someone in a fancy suit, right?

Killing one person is murder. Killing thousands is war. Why is one wrong and the other deemed acceptable?

OccultHawk 01-01-2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1910187)
So do rapists and murderers, so . . .


That's the problem. They follow orders like brainless twats, regardless of the morality of the orders.

Murder is wrong, unless you have a badge or are told to do so by someone in a fancy suit, right?

Killing one person is murder. Killing thousands is war. Why is one wrong and the other deemed acceptable?


Church.

Frownland 01-01-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1910173)
Every single person who is a cop or serving in the military has maybe a mother, a father, sisters, brothers, a spouse, kids, close friends, cousins, comrades, etc.

*cries* Good point!

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Let's say there's 50,000 rotten cops roaming the streets. Do you have ZERO sympathy for the other 95% of them out there doing their job?
They look out for those 50k and in turn assume responsibility for their actions. You might have a point if our cops were ever held accountable for anything.

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The vast majority of the military are folks trained to follow orders - no questions asked.
So support mafia hitmen and conformists at large as well.

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The vast majority of them are decent people.
What an idiotic broad brush statement.

de·cent
ˈdēs(ə)nt/Submit
adjective
1.
conforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behavior.

Last I checked, murder isn't a generally accepted standard of moral behaviour!

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I'll have ZERO sympathy when Dick Cheney dies.
But mostly because he's a Republican, right?

[MERIT] 01-01-2018 05:55 PM

But we can all agree to hate Dick Cheney. That's a start. We can build on that LOL.

Maajo 01-01-2018 06:44 PM

Cheney's a Dick.

OccultHawk 01-01-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1910230)
But we can all agree to hate Dick Cheney. That's a start. We can build on that LOL.

Church


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