The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

ENTIRE POINT OF THIS ARGUMENT: You do not have the "right" to someone else's labor.

So which is more important:
A: The right to infringe on rights.
B: The right to be treated like everyone else.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Frownland

So which is more important:
A: The right to infringe on rights.
B: The right to be treated like everyone else.

You're utilizing circular reasoning.

You don't have the "right" to make others treat you any particular way. That's ridiculous.

[Maajo]

Most people who claim to be libertarian are just republicans who don't want to admit to liking any republicans, and prefer Alex Jones to Sean Hannity. Pretty much the same **** with a different name, and yeah a lot of them are racists even if they don't realize it.

[[MERIT]]

We clearly have different expectations from and ideas of what society should be, so lets just agree to disagree.

[rubber soul]

Okay, I have one. Does a doctor have a right to refuse emergency medical service because he doesn't agree with the patient's political views?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

You're utilizing circular reasoning.

You don't have the "right" to make others treat you any particular way. That's ridiculous.

You have that right but more in the sense that you have the right from being treated a certain way. So which right is more important? Quit avoiding the very straightforward question.

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

If their goal was to get a wedding cake, they would just go find someone else to make them one. Pretty simple.

This is a short-sighted way to look at this scenario. Imagine if everyone decided that they didn't want to serve homosexuals? They in turn become second class citizens because they are unable to enjoy the basic privileges as everyone else does just because of who they were born as.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Maajo

Most people who claim to be libertarian are just republicans who don't want to admit to liking any republicans, and prefer Alex Jones to Sean Hannity. Pretty much the same **** with a different name, and yeah a lot of them are racists even if they don't realize it.

Fuck Sean Hannity AND Alex Jones.

The KKK was started by Democrats. Republicans were the ones who were AGAINST slavery. But fuck a two-party system with its illusion of choice.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Okay, I have one. Does a doctor have a right to refuse emergency medical service because he doesn't agree with the patient's political views?

I say yes. The law says no. And froundland says whatever the law says.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

The KKK was started by Democrats. Republicans were the ones who were AGAINST slavery. But fuck a two-party system with its illusion of choice.

Modern Republicans and Democrats are essentially polar opposites of their pre-FDR/LBJ selves, so this gotcha is misguided.

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Fuck Sean Hannity AND Alex Jones.

The KKK was started by Democrats. Republicans were the ones who were AGAINST slavery. But fuck a two-party system with its illusion of choice.

Yeah, the democrats did start the KKK. In the 1800s. In case you didn't realize, there were significant changes to the parties in the early 20th century, and by the 1940s a lot of the states that typically voted republican were now voting democrat because of a shift in ideology. I'm not an expert on the subject, but when big time liberal states like California and Minnesota go from Republican to Democrat consistently in a matter of one election, it's pretty damn clear what happened, no expertise necessary.