This I Believe There is / is not a God

The Batlord · 02-15-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PurpleWolf

I was once a hardcore christian, not a fundie but dedicated.
Up until I got into a conversation about religion with an older man.
And, despite all religions faults and problems, it gives people a sense of purpose and a set of morals and ethics to follow. It gives people friends, an external family, and a goal on how to live their lives. I would not be surprised if religious people died more content than non-religious people simply due to the fact that they feel they have accomplished something, whether that something is fake or real.

It also gives easy answers even though those answers may be wrong and even harmful (about homosexuality, the role of women, slavery).

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When I gave up religion, one of the few things I realized was that life is pointless; you get born, live a short life (which consists of a childhood were you are controlled by your parents then 12 years of schooling, maybe higher learning followed by 40-50 years of working for our two bitches, money and society before finally becoming too old to be of any use to anyone, except verbally) and then die.

That's just life.

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Another thing I realized is that religion makes peoples lives easier and safer.

Tell that to anyone who's ever been stoned to death for adultery, burned as a witch, or tortured to death for heresy.

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The Western world is built on christianity and is a fairly accepting and safe society, imagine if instead it was built on the Aztec religion or Islam?

The western world was built on Christianity, (leading to witch burnings, the Inquisition, the repression of science, the oppression of women, etc) but now it is built on taking those things that we still agree with (thou shallt not kill, love thy neighbor, etc) and ignoring all those things that are inconvenient. Like it or not, Christianity's hold on the western world is dying.

I don't mean to misrepresent your post by ignoring the last part, but the first half of your post was what I wanted to discuss.

crash_override · 02-15-2011, 11:47 AM

I may or may not have posted this before, but, god is not real.

Introvox · 02-15-2011, 11:50 AM

I'm Frisbetyrian

"we believe that when we die, we become frisbees and end up on the roof of a local grocery store"

PurpleWolf · 02-15-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It also gives easy answers even though those answers may be wrong and even harmful (about homosexuality, the role of women, slavery).

Yes thats very true. The Abrahamic religions are very much about putting power into the hands of men. Feminine men and gays are a disgrace to men, women must be submissive and quiet, and treating another human being as worse than an animal is A-OK!!

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That's just life.

Yeeaapp, its a pointless and otherwise boring life.

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Tell that to anyone who's ever been stoned to death for adultery, burned as a witch, or tortured to death for heresy.

Don't forget the Crusades....

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The western world was built on Christianity, (leading to witch burnings, the Inquisition, the repression of science, the oppression of women, etc) but now it is built on taking those things that we still agree with (thou shallt not kill, love thy neighbor, etc) and ignoring all those things that are inconvenient. Like it or not, Christianity's hold on the western world is dying.

I should stop posting after 3am, my brain died and stupid comments appear.
You are quite right there, thank you for pointing that out.

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I don't mean to misrepresent your post by ignoring the last part, but the first half of your post was what I wanted to discuss.

Not a problem!

Phantom Limb · 02-15-2011, 06:41 PM

Why the Christian God Does Not Exist:
1) God is all knowing
2) God is good
3) God is all powerful

If god is all knowing then he knows everything that will happen, and if he knows everything that will happen, he will use his infinite power to stop any evil before it happens (because he is all good). Therefore, since there's a **** ton of evil in the world, we can conclude that there is no god. Either that or god isn't good.

**Janszoon** · 02-15-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Abearmauledme

Why the Christian God Does Not Exist:
1) God is all knowing
2) God is good
3) God is all powerful

If god is all knowing then he knows everything that will happen, and if he knows everything that will happen, he will use his infinite power to stop any evil before it happens (because he is all good). Therefore, since there's a **** ton of evil in the world, we can conclude that there is no god. Either that or god isn't good.

Yep, that even has a name: The Problem of Evil.

RVCA · 02-15-2011, 09:14 PM

What I find funniest about the christian god is that he "created the universe in 6 days" and then "stopped to rest".

...yes, because divine beings who create universes need to rest too!

Phantom Limb · 02-17-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

What I find funniest about the christian god is that he "created the universe in 6 days" and then "stopped to rest".

...yes, because divine beings who create universes need to rest too!

I'm pretty sure that's intended to be a metaphor for the creation of the world. Who knows, maybe the world is so ****ed up because god is still resting.

The Batlord · 02-18-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Abearmauledme

I'm pretty sure that's intended to be a metaphor for the creation of the world. Who knows, maybe the world is so ****ed up because god is still resting.

I'm pretty sure it was written by ignorant shephards who didn't have the slightest idea what they were talking about. And if it was a metaphor, it was incredibly irresponsible of them/him/it to give us something so open to interpretation.

ProggyMan · 02-18-2011, 11:57 AM

Lol, considering the incredibly poetic nature of much of the bible it certainly wasn't written by 'ignorant shepherds'.

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02-15-2011, 11:50 AM	#853 (permalink)
Introvox Groupie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 17	I'm Frisbetyrian "we believe that when we die, we become frisbees and end up on the roof of a local grocery store"

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Phantom Limb Chocolate Homunculus Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,293	Why the Christian God Does Not Exist: 1) God is all knowing 2) God is good 3) God is all powerful If god is all knowing then he knows everything that will happen, and if he knows everything that will happen, he will use his infinite power to stop any evil before it happens (because he is all good). Therefore, since there's a **** ton of evil in the world, we can conclude that there is no god. Either that or god isn't good.

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RVCA （￣ー￣） Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,270	What I find funniest about the christian god is that he "created the universe in 6 days" and then "stopped to rest". ...yes, because divine beings who create universes need to rest too!

02-18-2011, 11:57 AM	#860 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Lol, considering the incredibly poetic nature of much of the bible it certainly wasn't written by 'ignorant shepherds'.