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Old 10-27-2008, 04:55 PM   #141 (permalink)
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since apparently my facts don't matter.

Obama is saving me $500.

McCain...nothing.

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Old 10-27-2008, 05:02 PM   #142 (permalink)
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since apparently my facts don't matter.

Obama is saving me $500.

McCain...nothing.

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You probably won't see that money. Those are based on proposed plans, they have to voted in through congress remember. And with Obama's tax plan there is not enough revenue rated to meet his promises to bolster homeland security and public secondary education.
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Here is the difference. I don't view it as murder. You do view it as murder. You have no problem with abortion under certain circumstances. This means you have no problem with murder sometimes. Therefor when you call Obama on the same thing you're being a hypocrite.

Honestly, I think the frivolous spending hurts more than the tax current tax set up. First and foremost I'd cut the funding a lot of programs and that would free up a lot of money. As for actually taxing things, in a strangely socialist way I think higher taxes especially on the upper class couldn't hurt.
Even though you have WendyCal dead to rights and have proved (s)he doesn't even understand her\his own reasoning it does not matter because logic is not part of her\his thinking process. This is the effects of a religious upbringing mixed with moderate to below average intelligence.
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Here is the difference. I don't view it as murder. You do view it as murder. You have no problem with abortion under certain circumstances. This means you have no problem with murder sometimes. Therefor when you call Obama on the same thing you're being a hypocrite.

Honestly, I think the frivolous spending hurts more than the tax current tax set up. First and foremost I'd cut the funding a lot of programs and that would free up a lot of money. As for actually taxing things, in a strangely socialist way I think higher taxes especially on the upper class couldn't hurt.
@ bold Noooo! i was speaking to the late-term, partial-birth stuff ~ the care-free and easy 'pooh, pooh' pro-choice folks seem to give it, without considering what is actually happening. How he could waffle about THAT, i don't understand. Well, but that's just me.

i DO have a problem with murder ~ but since when is self-defense considered murder? In the case of a child, that would be up to them and/or their families, how to handle it.

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So you'd try to fix the system? Yikes, guy...

i hate to keep citing back to one person, but Double X said, (and come to think of it, it's TRUE), rich folks don't work. Rich folks let their MONEY work for them. Increase their 'Income Tax?' They're laughing their asses off. Got plenty of loopholes in the investment rules concerning Income.

And that's part of the problem with trying to fix the current system. There is such a web of [ whatever that slimy stuff that squirts out of cans is ], that you'd be taking on a job that could well last into the next century.
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Even though you have WendyCal dead to rights and have proved (s)he doesn't even understand her\his own reasoning it does not matter because logic is not part of her\his thinking process. This is the effects of a religious upbringing mixed with moderate to below average intelligence.
A religious upbringing???

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Holy MACKEREL! Man, if you only knew!!!

i'm female, btw, and its in my profile, had you cared to check out a good source of info

(paraphrase)"i don't understand my own reasoning" Not only does that not make any sense ~ certainly, someone understands how they come to a decision ~ but just saying something like that is utter rubbish...
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(paraphrase)"i don't understand my own reasoning" Not only does that not make any sense ~ certainly, someone understands how they come to a decision ~ but just saying something like that is utter rubbish...
He is right. Everything out of your moused in an incredibly biased load of crap that you backup with another random link.

When arguing about politics do not bring up religion. Simple.
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He is right. Everything out of your moused in an incredibly biased load of crap that you backup with another random link.

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The 'random link?' The one to on the issues . com? With the quotes from Obama?

If you can't treat me with even a modicum of courtesy, man, just put me on Ignore. i'm not here to try to fight with anyone about anything, and amazingly enough, i get to base my opinions on MY experiences and knowledge.
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One of the worst voting strategies I have ever seen. Examine the candidates on the issues please, do not vote for one simply because he supposedly offers you a slight financial benefit. Sure he'll give you 500, but maybe that 500 won't be worth as much with his economic strategy in place...

That's not necessarily what I believe or what will happen but seriously take a good look at who you're voting for.
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@ bold Noooo! i was speaking to the late-term, partial-birth stuff ~ the care-free and easy 'pooh, pooh' pro-choice folks seem to give it, without considering what is actually happening. How he could waffle about THAT, i don't understand. Well, but that's just me.
Yes, I think it IS just you, since I already explained this in an earlier post, one that you disregarded completely. But, for the sake of argument, I'll explain it again, maybe I used too many big words.

Obama voted no on a bill to make late-term, or partial birth abortions illegal. The REASON he voted no, was that ON THAT PARTICULAR BILL, there was no clause excepting cases in which the mother's life was in danger. He has stated numerous times that he is against partial or late term abortion, unless the mother's health is in jeopardy. Did you understand this time or will I have to repeat myself a second time?
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Yes, I think it IS just you, since I already explained this in an earlier post, one that you disregarded completely. But, for the sake of argument, I'll explain it again, maybe I used too many big words.

Obama voted no on a bill to make late-term, or partial birth abortions illegal. The REASON he voted no, was that ON THAT PARTICULAR BILL, there was no clause excepting cases in which the mother's life was in danger. He has stated numerous times that he is against partial or late term abortion, unless the mother's health is in jeopardy. Did you understand this time or will I have to repeat myself a second time?
Actually, we were so far past that, that, well, you're a day late and a dollar short.

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