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View Poll Results: Physical punishment aganist children. Acceptable or Unacceptable?
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:57 PM   #821 (permalink)
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Just my personal view on disciplining not only yourself but your kids!

When I was younger growing up my parents physically disciplined me when I got out of line.

I hated them for it!

In time over the years I found I'm a better person for it.

I rarely drink alcohol.

I only took dangerous drugs one period in my life.

I hardly even know what a cigerrettte is to this day!!!

I've abstained and waited to have a kid with someone I love.

I have a good head on my shoulders.

Now I believe in disciplining is a good thing but when you take out your hard days work on your kids and say its discipline then we've all crossed the line.
Never... ever... hit your kids.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:54 PM   #822 (permalink)
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Never... ever... hit your kids.
How do the military discipline their people?

When your kids are little and don't know how to speak and starts reaching for a hot stove. Do you say its okay or do you spank the kid and teach the kid that it could have been your life!!!
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:05 AM   #823 (permalink)
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How do the military discipline their people?
The military does not employ physical discipline anymore.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:11 AM   #824 (permalink)
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How do the military discipline their people?

When your kids are little and don't know how to speak and starts reaching for a hot stove. Do you say its okay or do you spank the kid and teach the kid that it could have been your life!!!
Fingers=\=life and kids rebel the **** against hyperbole. Why do you think that DARE is such a failure?

Also for a music lover you don't talk about music much.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:22 AM   #825 (permalink)
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How do the military discipline their people?

When your kids are little and don't know how to speak and starts reaching for a hot stove. Do you say its okay or do you spank the kid and teach the kid that it could have been your life!!!
I guess all these anti-physical discipline people will just let their kids touch the hot stove so that they don't "abuse" them.

Also the problem with all of these spanking studies is that they lump too much together when determining the link to childhood problems based off of spanking. Whem some people use spanking they are also abusimg their kids in other forms such as verbal and mentally.

"In the meta-analysis, researchers Elizabeth Gershoff and Andrew Grogan-Kaylor from the University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan, respectively, evaluated 75 published studies on the relationship between spanking by parents and various behavioral, emotional, cognitive and physical outcomes among their kids. They found that spanking was associated with 13 out of a total of 17 negative outcomes they assessed, including increased aggression and behavioral and mental health problems as well as reduced cognitive ability and self-esteem.
The meta-analysis was not simply an attempt to synthesize studies—Gershoff and Grogan-Kaylor also wanted to address two concerns often raised about the body of research linking spanking to childhood problems. The first is that much of it has evaluated the effects of physical punishment in general, without homing in on the effects of spanking specifically—and because physical punishment can include tactics such as hitting with objects, pinching and biting, this “lumping problem” may ultimately exaggerate spanking’s risks. The second concern is that many published studies are “cross-sectional,” which means that they evaluate the effects of spanking by collecting data at a single point in time, making determinations of cause and effect difficult. A cross-sectional study might, for instance, find that aggressive 10-year-olds were more likely than docile 10-year-olds to have been spanked as toddlers, but that does not mean that spanking made them aggressive. They may have been spanked because they were acting out back then, too."

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First, although the new analysis did attempt to separate the effects of spanking from those of physical tactics that are considered harsher, research has shown that many parents who spank also use other forms of punishment—so “you’re still not really isolating spanking from overall abusiveness,” explains Christopher Ferguson, a psychologist at Stetson University in Florida. In other words, the negative effects associated with spanking could still be driven in part by parents’ use of other tactics.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...bout-spanking/

Edit: needed to get the right quotes, I've had this article on my phone for days now and needed to just link it so I could find the proper ones on my laptop.
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I guess all these anti-physical discipline people will just let their kids touch the hot stove so that they don't "abuse" them.
My dad told me to touch the stove when I asked if it was still hot because he took a pan off and it went from red hot to the regular black. He asserts that I never touched it again after that but I think "of course it's still hot, you dumb mother****er" would have worked. Instead, a four year old frownland got third degree burns on four of his fingers.
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Old 11-08-2016, 01:08 AM   #827 (permalink)
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I'm religious and very spiritual so some things I say may be from another point of view. Ultimately you are going to decide a kids' fate if your their parents. So this is what I'm getting at... GOD is in control!

Each person has to make a decision to what they choose to do in their life. Whether you want to dress demure or provacative; whether you want to be proper in your suit and tie or t-shirt. It depends on what each person prefers.

Parents are not perfect and neither am I. If I were perfect I would be GOD.

I listen to music all day long however these are important issues that I don't normally address.

My parents were are in the military so we have a rather discipline and structured lifestyle. Even these days we are not discipled physically unless we are rebels............
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I'm religious and very spiritual so some things I say may be from another point of view. Ultimately you are going to decide a kids' fate if your their parents. So this is what I'm getting at... GOD is in control!

Each person has to make a decision to what they choose to do in their life. Whether you want to dress demure or provacative; whether you want to be proper in your suit and tie or t-shirt. It depends on what each person prefers.

Parents are not perfect and neither am I. If I were perfect I would be GOD.

I listen to music all day long however these are important issues that I don't normally address.

My parents were are in the military so we have a rather discipline and structured lifestyle. Even these days we are not discipled physically unless we are rebels............
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So this is what I'm getting at... GOD is in control!
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