Physical discipline against children .. okay or not? (country, American, African)

Antonio · 03-20-2009, 09:32 PM

it's ok as long as you don't break their face or anything

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 · 03-22-2009, 01:37 AM

I chose unacceptable, but to be honest, it's kinda vague what you mean by "physical punishment."

If by a light spanking, then I'd find it acceptable, just as it isn't overused. I was spanked, and while I didn't like it, it has shaped me into the man I am today. I can understand why some parents would be reluctant to do it, but seriously, I've seen alot of really unbelievably spoiled children mouthing off to their parents and knocking **** over in the store I work in. Not saying they should spank them there and now, but if it is a sample of how they behave at home, I'd say that warrants a spanking.

Now, if by "physical punishment" you mean using the threat of a beating as a deterent, then I find it unacceptable. If you beat your kids for every wrong thing they do, all you're doing is teaching them that violence is the only solution to every problem in the world. Even so much as using a belt I'd find repulsive; you don't need a weapon to raise your kids.

Now, I know I'm not a parent (trust me, have gotten no pussy, unfortunately), but it doesn't take being a parent to know how impressionable children can be.

sleepy jack · 03-22-2009, 02:16 AM

Who defines the line between physical discipline and child abuse? It seems too arbitrary to me.

Personally, however, if I have kids (a big if) I don't plan to ever lay a finger on them in a harmful manner but that kind of dives into my own upbringing, mental health and philosophy and unless someone wants to read an anecdotal/slightly medical/idealistic essay on that I won't go into it.

I'm curious to know why "light spanking" is seeming like the preferred method to deal with an uppity child. Taking the above example for instance (seeing as it's one we've all seen) don't you think the spoiled child's behavior isn't something spontaneous but rooted in a rather taught attitude (e.g. there was no real strict argument of any sort against that behavior in the household prior to that therefore the child think it's acceptable behavior?) Basically what I'm getting at here is no child is naturally spoiled and selfish, that is something they learn in the household so the best way to deal with it is to not tolerate that sort of behavior early on and raise them with a sense of humility and respect; which isn't something you can teach with spanking.

Double X · 03-22-2009, 12:00 PM

Now that I am stronger than my dad - I would say it's acceptable.

Yukon Cornelius · 03-22-2009, 01:19 PM

I have kids and I will spank them if they have done something wrong. I was raised that way and I think that its O.K.. I'm not talking about beating them silly just enough to where its not worth doing whatever it was they were doing again.

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Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

I chose unacceptable, but to be honest, it's kinda vague what you mean by "physical punishment."

If by a light spanking, then I'd find it acceptable, just as it isn't overused. I was spanked, and while I didn't like it, it has shaped me into the man I am today. I can understand why some parents would be reluctant to do it, but seriously, I've seen alot of really unbelievably spoiled children mouthing off to their parents and knocking **** over in the store I work in. Not saying they should spank them there and now, but if it is a sample of how they behave at home, I'd say that warrants a spanking.

Now, if by "physical punishment" you mean using the threat of a beating as a deterent, then I find it unacceptable. If you beat your kids for every wrong thing they do, all you're doing is teaching them that violence is the only solution to every problem in the world. Even so much as using a belt I'd find repulsive; you don't need a weapon to raise your kids.

Now, I know I'm not a parent (trust me, have gotten no pussy, unfortunately), but it doesn't take being a parent to know how impressionable children can be.

Sometimes humiliation is needed as well. You cant let your kids think that just because you have gone into a store means they can act up.

Also just to spit this out there if you don't have kids STFU. Your opinion is worthless, you have no idea.

sleepy jack · 03-22-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

I have kids and I will spank them if they have done something wrong. I was raised that way and I think that its O.K.. I'm not talking about beating them silly just enough to where its not worth doing whatever it was they were doing again.

You're right; spanking is acceptable. After all look how well you turned out.

Yukon Cornelius · 03-22-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

You're right; spanking is acceptable. After all look how well you turned out.

You sir are a freak show. You act as though there is something wrong with me yet, 17958 posts later you say i have a problem? I spank my kids yea so what. Your weird.

punkrawker07 · 03-23-2009, 01:17 PM

i think everyone is in agreement on the fine line between a spanking and abuse. what it comes down to is consistent parenting. i don't think that you have to spank your kid nor does it have to come down to making it so that you can't spank your kid. i spanked my kid and don't have a problem with people spanking their kids as a form of dicipline. whether you use spankings or time outs or whatever as long as the rules are laid out and they are followed your children will follow them.

someone who has an issue with spanking their children may use other methods of discipline that work just as well but it comes back to being consistent. children are always pushing the limits and if you let them get away with some stuff, well they are going to push the limits on all stuff. you give them certain rules and structure and make it clear what the consequences are to not following them they will listen.

i don't think people should be criticized for spanking their children. i also don't think that spanking is the solution to everything. consistent parenting is the main thing. and as far as people that cross the line into child abuse and people that use spanking as the only form of dicipline i don't think a law banning spanking would solve that anyway. they are already disobeying the law in regards to child abuse so making a new one isn't going to change anything other than get the parents using responsible dicipline in trouble.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 03-25-2009, 03:52 AM

It's banned in my country, and I'm glad. I think a light hit on the bumb is acceptable but setting ground rules from day one and sticking to them is the best way to avoid any physical touching. It is difficult as kids develop in different stages as they get older, so getting through to them what's wrong and right would be one hell of a task. I certainly won't be going down this road for a looong time.

Guybrush · 03-25-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

It's banned in my country, and I'm glad. I think a light hit on the bumb is acceptable but setting ground rules from day one and sticking to them is the best way to avoid any physical touching. It is difficult as kids develop in different stages as they get older, so getting through to them what's wrong and right would be one hell of a task. I certainly won't be going down this road for a looong time.

Is there a lot of opposition against the ban in New Zealand or are people happy about it? I guess there's less smacking in NZ than there is in the USA (appearantly more than 90% US kids recieve corporal punishment in a study from 1996). Do you think brats are snottier in NZ because of the lack of corporal punishment?

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03-22-2009, 01:37 AM	#102 (permalink)
Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 #1 Schuldinist. Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 420	I chose unacceptable, but to be honest, it's kinda vague what you mean by "physical punishment." If by a light spanking, then I'd find it acceptable, just as it isn't overused. I was spanked, and while I didn't like it, it has shaped me into the man I am today. I can understand why some parents would be reluctant to do it, but seriously, I've seen alot of really unbelievably spoiled children mouthing off to their parents and knocking **** over in the store I work in. Not saying they should spank them there and now, but if it is a sample of how they behave at home, I'd say that warrants a spanking. Now, if by "physical punishment" you mean using the threat of a beating as a deterent, then I find it unacceptable. If you beat your kids for every wrong thing they do, all you're doing is teaching them that violence is the only solution to every problem in the world. Even so much as using a belt I'd find repulsive; you don't need a weapon to raise your kids. Now, I know I'm not a parent (trust me, have gotten no pussy, unfortunately), but it doesn't take being a parent to know how impressionable children can be. __________________ I don't mean to dwell But I can't help myself When I feel the vibe And taste a memory Of a time in life When years seemed to stand still

03-25-2009, 03:52 AM	#109 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	It's banned in my country, and I'm glad. I think a light hit on the bumb is acceptable but setting ground rules from day one and sticking to them is the best way to avoid any physical touching. It is difficult as kids develop in different stages as they get older, so getting through to them what's wrong and right would be one hell of a task. I certainly won't be going down this road for a looong time. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

03-20-2009, 09:32 PM	#101 (permalink)
Antonio VICTORY SCREEEEEEECH Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Are you a cop? Posts: 3,348	it's ok as long as you don't break their face or anything

03-22-2009, 12:00 PM	#104 (permalink)
Double X sleepe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: boston Posts: 1,140	Now that I am stronger than my dad - I would say it's acceptable.

03-23-2009, 01:17 PM	#108 (permalink)
punkrawker07 Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 94	i think everyone is in agreement on the fine line between a spanking and abuse. what it comes down to is consistent parenting. i don't think that you have to spank your kid nor does it have to come down to making it so that you can't spank your kid. i spanked my kid and don't have a problem with people spanking their kids as a form of dicipline. whether you use spankings or time outs or whatever as long as the rules are laid out and they are followed your children will follow them. someone who has an issue with spanking their children may use other methods of discipline that work just as well but it comes back to being consistent. children are always pushing the limits and if you let them get away with some stuff, well they are going to push the limits on all stuff. you give them certain rules and structure and make it clear what the consequences are to not following them they will listen. i don't think people should be criticized for spanking their children. i also don't think that spanking is the solution to everything. consistent parenting is the main thing. and as far as people that cross the line into child abuse and people that use spanking as the only form of dicipline i don't think a law banning spanking would solve that anyway. they are already disobeying the law in regards to child abuse so making a new one isn't going to change anything other than get the parents using responsible dicipline in trouble.