Lobsters do actually feel pain though; they have nerves and it's a myth probably created by lobstering companies to make boiling them alive seem harmless. Ants feel pain as well the only reason they wouldn't know what's going on is because they don't have the intelligence to comprehend the scenario but arguing killing animals is acceptable because they don't know what's going on/can't feel pain is silly. Most babies (I'm not talking fetuses or embryos) don't really know what's going on either.

I'm all for decent ways of slaughtering my dinner but the idea of putting them to sleep before killing them is a bit pointless. Next thing you know PETA will be asking for lethal injections.

Upton Sinclair's got a whole book about this.

PETA does more harm than good in regards to the animal rights. All they manage to do is make idiot celebrities like Bill Maher and Pamela Anderson feel good about themselves while alienated people who actually matter.

There is no need to put them to sleep before slaughter if you stun them correctly.
Which, sadly, is not happening.
Therefore they just slit throats and wait for them to bleed out, or broil them alive, or even break bones till the pain prevents them from fighting back and they just die slowly while being dismembered.

And, while I do not in any way agree with most of PETAs views, I am glad they petitioned so hard that some fast food restaurants sent their own inspectors to the slaughterhouses and reformed policies.

What the f*ck are you talking about?

I know they do some crazy stuff but instances of broiling animals alive is pretty rare, I've never heard of it being done in this country. That's just retarded, what's the logic in even doing that? Do you know what broiling is.

Even if that is true it violates government regulations, which no one here thinks should be violated, if you think this is a good reason to get rid of the slaughterhouse industry you have failed.

I didn't mean to make it sound as though it was ok to kill for no reason, more or less I was saying that at least we are eating what we kill so there is purpose behind the lobster vs stepping on ants/ putting poison on an ant hill because they are an inconvenience, since honestly we are the real inconvenience to the ant..

I feel that people prioritize whats humane based on the level on consciousness an animal/insect has.

Your right I do need to explain myself better...

I'm sorry, It was a typing mistake. (probably just from staring at the word)
I mean Boiling.

Yeah, that's also retarded.

I'm all for tougher regulations.

I agree that the meat industry on the whole is pretty awful. It makes me wonder why some people are so much against hunting, but yet have no problems buying their packaged meat in the supermart. After all, a wild animal has at least led a natural life up to the point where it's killed.

By hunting, I mean hunting which is sustainable and likely even beneficial as a way of population regulation such as moose hunting in Norway.

If you're against it because of morale, that's fine of course, but then you should also consider becoming a vegetarian.