I wasn't talking about suicide so much as joining the front line or something.

that was his point in that post. I think, lol

There is some order to the universe, just none that's been defined by any of the idiotic institutions set up in the current civilization.

Um the way I understood his post was suicide is a sin and if you did it you couldn't get into heaven - not that if you got killed in a war god would send you to hell for it.

I wrote a paper on prayer in secular schools today. I stated that even as a non-christian that I supported non-endorsed prayer to be allowed in secular schools. All of the Christians at my school either tried to convert me or thought I was strange for not being Christian and thinking that way. All of the Athiests thought I was some sort of traitor.

I mean for Chrystler's sake, sending off a prayer during the moment of silence isn't forcing or endorsing religion on anyone. And I don't believe in mandatory praying sessions because not only is that forcing religion on people, but this is a secular country and there is a Christian school right across town ffs.

what exists outside of our minds?

I don't even understand what the last two posts have to do with whether or not the Abrahamic god exists or not.

I didn't know where else to put it, sorry.

Your post wasn't that bad or even necessarily off-topic considering how broad this threads become. Really it's just Darkest Hour's post that has no relevancy whatsoever.

has anyone ever heard of the law of nature and no god theory? Some guy was talking about it in another forum and it sounded interesting.