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View Poll Results: Stem cells. Yay or nay?
Yes! Bring it on! 35 97.22%
No. I'm against it. 1 2.78%
Undecided 0 0%
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I completely support stem cell research. As you guys have been saying, the potential for saving lives far outweighs the petty moral debate that gets thrown at us. I've heard the argument that we will start harvesting embryos simply for their stem cells, but what people don't realize is we will eventually be able to create stem cells without the need for an embryo at all.
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^Just click the vote number and it will show you who voted which way.
Omg! I never knew people could see what I vote! ever.
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Omg! I never knew people could see what I vote! ever.
It depends on whether they set it so that the votes are public or not.
If you can't see anyone else, they can't see you.
Something to check if you want to remain anonymous.
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^ I got excited and went round all the polls, most are private

But yay! to me finding out something moderately cool
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^ I got excited and went round all the polls, most are private

But yay! to me finding out something moderately cool
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I want to know the reasoning behind the vote against stem cell research. That person has not posted in the thread yet!
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^ likewise.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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So, there already was a stem cell thread, but that was about politics more than stem cell research in itself. Obama seems more stem cell friendly than his predecessor and although such research goes on in many countries, it's nice to see support for this research again in the US.
As I understand it was that George W. Bushn't was against stem cell research he limited embryonic stem cell research. And it isn't that Obama is friendly towards stem cell research Obama is overturning a limit on embryonic stem cell research, which was put in place for ethical reasons.


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If you don't know what stem cell research is, I can do a quick, simplified summary. An embryo in the earliest stages of development is little more than a lump of cells. The cells haven't been given a job yet - and a job could be to be a skin cell, a muscle cell, blood cell, brain cell, liver cell - you get the idea. At that point before the cell has been given a job, it has the potential to become any cell in the body. It is a stem cell. As our bodies develop, we lose our stem cells as they develop into the kind of working cells our bodies consist of. Stem cell research is research into producing such stem cells to use them to replace damaged cells in the body. The best source for such stem cells is aborted fetuses which is where the ethical dilemma comes in.
There are adult stem cells and embryonic stem cell. Human embyonic and aborted fetuses stem cell research is unethical, period. Just because they don't look like a fully formed adult does not mean those experiments does not violate the natural law. From what I heard adult stem cells provide positive results, sceintist really don't need to experiment on human embryos.

Edit: Since you did not differentiate between adult and embryonic stem cell research I wil not vote.
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There are adult stem cells and embryonic stem cell. Human embyonic and aborted fetuses stem cell research is unethical, period. Just because they don't look like a fully formed adult does not mean those experiments does not violate the natural law. From what I heard adult stem cells provide positive results, sceintist really don't need to experiment on human embryos.

Edit: Since you did not differentiate between adult and embryonic stem cell research I wil not vote.
Not true at all. Adult stem cells do indeed have similar qualities, but are limited to becoming cells of their tissue of origin. They are also incredibly hard to grow in culture and are also scarce in an adult. Embryonic stem cells have the potential to become any cell in the human body and are much easier to grow in culture. This is why I mentioned we will eventually find a way to produce them without the need of an embryo at all.

I can understand the moral dilemma here...but there will be abortions whether we like it or not. Why not honor that potential life by allowing it to provide life to someone else?
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