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Old 09-20-2010, 02:42 PM   #341 (permalink)
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I dont get why people have probs with gays, only difference is that they like people of the same gender as them, other than that they're just regular people, no ****in problem.

if the gov is worried about the world becoming underpopulated 1) we're overpopulated right now anyway 2) lesbians can go to sperm banks 3) gays can adopt. no problem there.

and no matter what the gov does to stop gays from getting MARRIED, they will still DATE, they just want the same benefits that married people get. apparently its too much to ask. **** the government bitches, hope they all roast in hell.

sorry i kinda ramble about this type of thing, homophobia is the #1 way to tick me off. [/rant]
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:21 PM   #342 (permalink)
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I don't really get "homophobia", it's kind of ridiculous. My best friend is a gay guy, and I was very close-minded before we became friends. There's much more to people than their sexuality. The only problem I have with it is from a religious point of view, but that's my own personal religious views and it doesn't affect the way I look at other people. I do, however, know others that do, and if they were such big Christians like they claim to be, they wouldn't judge someone based solely on their sexuality. Really, who are we to judge, anyway?
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:59 PM   #343 (permalink)
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I don't really get "homophobia", it's kind of ridiculous. My best friend is a gay guy, and I was very close-minded before we became friends. There's much more to people than their sexuality. The only problem I have with it is from a religious point of view, but that's my own personal religious views and it doesn't affect the way I look at other people. I do, however, know others that do, and if they were such big Christians like they claim to be, they wouldn't judge someone based solely on their sexuality. Really, who are we to judge, anyway?
What is your religious point of view?
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:58 PM   #344 (permalink)
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What is your religious point of view?
My faith is in Christianity, the Bible, The Lord..you get my point..and although I love my friend (who's gay), support him as a person, he knows I can't go out and shout out my love for homosexuals. I'm not going to judge someone for being gay, or anything else for that matter, because it's not my place, but in the same aspect I also can't endorse it. I'm completely okay with being around hay people, some are some of the nicest people I've met, but they all know how I feel too. I guess what I'm trying to say is that my religious point of view is that of the Bible, I don't 'support' two people of the same sex being together in a sexual manner, or marrying, etc, was meant for a man & woman...BUT, I don't go around shouting about it one way or another. Honestly it doesn't bother me, just don't ask me to support it or give my opinion. I'm just a lot more laid back about it I guess?
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I don't 'support' two people of the same sex being together in a sexual manner, or marrying, etc, was meant for a man & woman...BUT, I don't go around shouting about it one way or another.
Just curious, are you against contraception and masturbation as well?
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Just curious, are you against contraception and masturbation as well?
I'm not Catholic, I'm not strictly against contraception completely. Sex before marriage is wrong, so I guess using contraception before you're married in the intent to have sex would be also. After marriage, I'm not so sure I find much of anything wrong with it. Masturbation is a cloudy confusing subject, one that even if I went into I'm not quite sure anybody would understand. Honestly, I don't really care what people do to themselves, but I don't want to know about it. A sin is a sin, none is worse than the other. I don't go around telling people what to do, or how to live their life.

one thing though, isn't all this a little off the topic? I mean, concerning contraception and masturbation and whatnot?
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I'm not Catholic, I'm not strictly against contraception completely. Sex before marriage is wrong, so I guess using contraception before you're married in the intent to have sex would be also. After marriage, I'm not so sure I find much of anything wrong with it. Masturbation is a cloudy confusing subject, one that even if I went into I'm not quite sure anybody would understand. Honestly, I don't really care what people do to themselves, but I don't want to know about it. A sin is a sin, none is worse than the other. I don't go around telling people what to do, or how to live their life.

one thing though, isn't all this a little off the topic? I mean, concerning contraception and masturbation and whatnot?
not really. had you found both to be completely acceptable i was going to ask how you discern the bible's pretty clear stance against both and homosexuality. i can see why you may find it to be off-topic. i used to be really big on getting people to accept the moral ramifications of homosexuality; but at this point I'm just against the government putting others down because of their religious beliefs when the US is supposed to be a secular nation.
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I'm not Catholic, I'm not strictly against contraception completely. Sex before marriage is wrong, so I guess using contraception before you're married in the intent to have sex would be also. After marriage, I'm not so sure I find much of anything wrong with it. Masturbation is a cloudy confusing subject, one that even if I went into I'm not quite sure anybody would understand. Honestly, I don't really care what people do to themselves, but I don't want to know about it. A sin is a sin, none is worse than the other. I don't go around telling people what to do, or how to live their life.

one thing though, isn't all this a little off the topic? I mean, concerning contraception and masturbation and whatnot?
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not really. had you found both to be completely acceptable i was going to ask how you discern the bible's pretty clear stance against both and homosexuality. i can see why you may find it to be off-topic. i used to be really big on getting people to accept the moral ramifications of homosexuality; but at this point I'm just against the government putting others down because of their religious beliefs when the US is supposed to be a secular nation.
Yeah. Like I said, everyone that I know, knows where I stand, but I just don't see where trying to force feed people something they really don't want to hear gets you. They just resent you. I just think we were called to love, and yes, spread the the word of Christianity..but, I think it's easier to do so without shoving scripture down someone's throat. Love without limits and somehow it's easier. wow..That all seems a little hippie-ish, and believe me, I'm not.
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I don't see anything wrong with gay people. I really don't. I mean, I can see why people would dislike them for moral reasons, but... Are they really any different than straight people? Bi people? No.

And that's one of the problems I have with religion(since it's being discussed above). Christianity in particular.

"Yes kids, God loves all his children. Unless they're gay". And I've heard it taught that way too.

Now imagine if there was a little gay kid in that crowd being taught. He knew fully well what being gay meant and he really, truly was gay. But he also had a strong belief and faith in God. Imagine how he would've felt after hearing that. And what if he was a pretty good kid too? Hadn't done anything wrong, wasn't going to, any straight person that was like him would get to Heaven by the standards set by Mr God up there. Except he's gay. That one little detail secures him a place in Hell all because Oh Lord God Almighty, the omniscient Creator that "loves all his children", is a homophobe.

A blatant homophobe at that. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
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