Stone Birds

just a little question does serbia not know of the broadcasting tool known as "voice-over" it bothered me the entire way through

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Jonny Redshirt

Sugar's right. What does it matter if somebody is born gay or chooses to be gay? We can argue endlessly about this until somebody proves one way or another, but at the end of the day, it's not like it's hurting anybody. People have the right to love who they love, and be attracted to whoever they're attracted to, and I support that completely.

I'm ashamed of the people in my religion who angrily attack homosexuals. It's not right. What happened to loving unconditionally and loving your neighbor greater than yourself, regardless of their beliefs? I couldn't care less if somebody was straight or gay, whether they chose to be or not.

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VEGANGELICA

I also wonder what happened to the religious idea of loving your neighbor at least as much as yourself. It's nice that you recognize the hypocrisy of religious people picking and choosing which rules they follow.

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Scarlett O'Hara

I agree with this. The whole issues with the Catholic church that I have has reduced me to believing in God, Jesus and his life on earth, his mother Mary and I keep my relationship with God very close to me. I rely on his guidance to get me through life, not what the Church dictates. I have had personal struggles with the gay situation, but I believe in my heart that everyone is equal, and there's no way that God can't have contributed to people being gay considering it's been around since the beginning of time. Hell, even animals can be gay. If I am wrong, well I just hope that my will to be a good person is what will get me through. I have no right to judge peoples decisions they make in life, the skin colour they have or their sexual orientation.

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RVCA

There's no argument here. It's not up for decision. Nobody consciously chooses what they're sexually aroused by; to suggest otherwise is ludicrous. However, there is still plenty to argue about WHEN your sexuality is determined (in the womb? just after birth? in the developmental years?) and by what mechanism your sexuality is determined (which part of the brain, if it can even be localized? Is it genetic?).

jeveuxleson

I do believe scientists are able to find out what part of the brain is for arousal and such. But it comes down to this: is homosexuality ran by sexual arousal, or is it a deeper emotion? What I mean to say is, based on the homosexual community, there are the ones who are sexually aroused to the same sex and there are those who are truly seeking for a life-long relationship with the same sex. Can we pinpoint the emotion? I do not think so. Emotions are a more complex idea. Now the sexual drive however, it is hardwired into us. So chemicals are released from a certain point and allow us to become aroused. What causes this arousal, it is uncertain. Well, I haven't seen proof.

I hope that made sense... I typed this rather quickly.

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Arya Stark

There is an argument.
People DO think that gays choose to be gay.

I just dgaf either way.
I don't see the point of trying to figure it out. Gay people are gay. End of story.
I'm sure if someone REALLY wanted to, they could convince themselves to be attracted to someone else. I'm sure there's a way.

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RVCA

It made sense, and that's why I was careful to say "sexually aroused by" instead of just "attracted to", which encompasses a huge and complex network of emotions like you said.

Well, yeah, but those people are wrong.

That wouldn't really fly with a judge if you were called to defend Gay Marriage.



There have been cases of brain damage or mental illness where the victim's source of sexual arousal flip-flops (pedophiles no longer attracted to kids, straight people become gay and vice versa), but for someone to think that they can change their source of arousal through sheer will, well... that's called denial.

jeveuxleson

If we find that homosexuality is in fact genetic, is it ethically wrong to force people to become 'straight'? Not necessarily a mentality of arousal/attraction, as you mention above, but it's merely a 'defect' as it would be classified. It's physical proof, not mental, that homosexuality can be isolated, should we as a society eliminate this? Or is that genocide, much like Hitler and his 'Super-race'?

I mean, I'm all for the idea of 'weeding out.' However, I am for the fact of 'Live and let live.' So I'd be torn. But if I truly had a choice, I think I'd vote against it, being a gay man myself. Yet, I just want the best for the society as a whole. And if they truly believe that I am a nuisance, I don't want to become the problem. I don't want my life as hell because I'm a 'genetic mutant.' I think it sort of boils down to having a genetic condition... in a sense. Like down syndrome.

This is all hypothetical of course, there is NO proof yet of homosexuality being genetic. This just comes to show that we know so little about, and therefore we shouldn't react harshly towards it. (i.e. Banning gay marriage, exile, etc.)

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Goblin Tears

Being in denial and going to those creepy straight camps (that more often than not cause psychological damage) don't really count as ways.