Samoan health authorities have stopped all children's vaccinations after two one-year-olds died just minutes after receiving the MMR vaccine. The two nurses who administered them have been charged with manslaughter and conspiracy to defeat the course of justice.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12086295

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12103918

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-...ghter-in-samoa

But Hawk some of us do not want our immune systems compromised!!

I have an autoimmune disease I believe what brought on by vaccine use when I was younger..... (Before I realised how bad they are)

Didn't look into those cases much but vaccines can definitely be mishandled and cause infection. I don't see government action as a point against vaccines though (if I did I wouldn't do drugs), give me scientific evidence. I'm just not that much of an authoritarian.

Backing out on my earlier promise btw. The memes you posted earlier on don't really have enough substance for me to pull apart. If you have some scientific articles I'll take a glance though.

Then you should avoid eating, drinking, breathing, standing in the sunlight, smiling, or touching anything.

Not sure which disease you're referring to but it was likely already present. It's a shame that it wasn't caught beforehand for more appropriate measures to be taken.

"Vaccines don't cause autism, except when they do."

Is Psysorsis (I think thats how its spelled)

Its just aweful Frown!!

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/parenti...pe-death-50770

Measles tragedy: Mum's heartbreaking post goes viral

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45294192

Russia trolls 'spreading vaccination misinformation' to create discord

ffs no exemptions

NBC News

Do not ask. Do not threaten with prison. Just take these children by force, give them their vaccinations and then give them back. We cannot allow these diseases to comeback. Period.

^Cases of what?

Measles.

My bad.

Thanks, havent been following it much lately.

Global Dispatches is a good podcast

From the latest episode’s description:

What a triumph

Makes you want to punch a bunch of anti-vaxxers.

My Dad was a Polio survivor. Thank you, Science.

And his son got to grow up in a society that had eradicated polio. So thank you again to science.

:beer:

:wave:

Vaccine theory isn't inherently wrong, I just have a problem with the dangerous ingredients in most vaccines.

You should be worried about DANGEROUS life-threatening diseases that you've had the privilege of not seeing in your lifetime.

Church

Yessss. I don’t know why people think autism is worse than being dead.

There’s no causal relationship between any vaccines and autism.

This is blatantly and patently untrue. Not really in the mood to bring up proof that you could find yourself in about 2 seconds.

So you're basing your stance off of 2 seconds of googling. Super science!

I saw a YT video about how the medical trend is moving towards the best doctors are the ones who can google the best, not necessarily know the most. Whatchaknowboutdat?

The video was "real doctor watches medical tv shows"...

Come on, you two. I've been waiting for a throwdown with sources between you two on vaccines for a while now.

Not in the mood tonight. Try me.

30 Solid Scientific Studies That Proves Vaccines Cause Autism

Court Awards Family $1.5 MILLION+ For Daughter's Vaccine Injury

Tennessee Medical Office Stops Administering Vaccines Because They Cause Autism

The Vaccine-Autism Connection Explained

Thimerasol: CDC Releases Documents Showing They Knew Vaccine Preservative Causes Autism

Italian Courts Rule That Vaccines Cause Autism

But this post was a waste of time, because you're just going to $hit on the sources in attempt to cause strife and induce arguments.

Why should I have to spoon feed you people? You're adults FFS.

Its not spoon feeding as much as providing a foundation for your argument. Frown should also provide sources.

Bruh if your sources are conspiracy theory **** then of course they're going to get **** on. The only people who take that seriously are conspiracy nuts with logic problems.

I guess OH would say, "**** it this is an exception. Pandemics shouldn't be a choice."

Just because it's a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it not true, bruh.

Ever think that maybe mainstream media refuses to post certain things because they have an agenda or are sponsored by drug compaines? No, of course you din't think that.

You ever think you never shook the crazy religious **** and just replaced it with crazy conspiracy ****?

Like the two aren't one in the same. Zing!

No. The default position is to reject either claim until they meet their burden of proof.

So yeah, suck on that. :D

No, if you reject BOTH claims, then no one gets vaccinated, and you, by default, go with the claim that it is unsafe to vaccinate. #Pragamatism

Uh yeah exactly.

There are alternative ways to educate but not really alternative ways to prevent the Spanish Flux.

Nah, I won't get into this ond since your brand of emotive reasoning has no place in science and you already seem to be aware that your sources are ****ty.