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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2009068)

Did it have a virus?

:clap:

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Originally Posted by grindy

Makes you want to punch a bunch of anti-vaxxers.

Well the anti ones just want to protect themselves from the bad ingredients Grindy....

He has a right not to have garbage injected into him....

Idk

The issue to me is it’s a ****ing miracle what’s been achieved through vaccination programs

I traveled through India as I’ve mentioned before / that doctors and nurses and volunteers relentlessly scoured every nook and cranny and got those drops of vaccine in every child fighting through all that insanity paranoia misinformation distrust and just the oceans of poverty and people and managed to completely eradicate a disease that caused so much suffering

How the **** can these people **** on that?

Like Merit I know you believe stupid **** because of some weird psychological proclivity but still man shame on you for promoting this reckless misinformation

It’s ****ing sick man

And hearing about like measles making a comeback and herd immunity being threatened

**** that

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2009061)

Some of them. I went down the list, finding info on each one to do an in-depth write-up, but lost it when my hard drive crashed.

I haven't gone through them all (it's a pretty big task to comb through numerous articles and citations) but the ones that I have seem either to jump from correlation straight to causation or have low sample sizes/repeatability issues.

should note too that none of these studies were performed/written in the past 10 years.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2009083)

I hope Merit gets forcefully held down and administered vaccinations

What the F*CK is wrong with you?

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2009090)

shame on you for promoting this reckless misinformation

Shame on YOU for wanting to poison people against their will. Fascist motherf*cker.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2008905)

:thumb:

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2009090)

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2009095)

What the F*CK is wrong with you?

Shame on YOU for wanting to poison people against their will. Fascist motherf*cker.

Are you okay with mandatory injections if they are 100% safe?

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2009122)

Are you okay with mandatory injections if they are 100% safe?

I'm not really okay with mandatory ANYTHING

So, why dont you take that position instead of arguing about vaccines being poison without sufficient evidence? You'll seem more reasonable and less whackadoo.

"Whackadoo" is a top 10 English word. At least top 20.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2009155)

So, why dont you take that position instead of arguing about vaccines being poison without sufficient evidence? You'll seem more reasonable and less whackadoo.

I assumed that being against mandatory forced vaccinations was a given.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2009182)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24814559

In my best froundland voice: "NCBI? How about a reliable source!"[/Douche]

So, some studies say that vaccine ingredients contribute to austism and some say the opposite. So, we're back where we started.

I have a needle fetish.

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2009185)

So, some studies say that vaccine ingredients contribute to austism and some say the opposite. So, we're back where we started.

You're relying on invalid evidence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/

^A legit conspiracy to pin in your hat. The autism-vaccine hysteria and misreporting was the product of a literal shill lawyer.

Hepatitis B Vaccination Of Male Neonates And Autism Diagnosis

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Boys vaccinated as neonates had threefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated

Do Aluminum Vaccine Adjuvants Contribute To The Rising Prevalence Of Autism?

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Aluminum, the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin

children from countries with the highest [autism spectrum disorder] prevalence appear to have the highest exposure to [aluminim] from vaccines

the increase in exposure to [aluminum] adjuvants significantly correlates with the increase in [autism spectrum disorder] prevalence in the United States observed over the last two decades

a significant correlation exists between the amounts of [aluminum] administered to preschool children and the current prevalence of [autism spectrum disorder] in seven Western countries.

The application of the Hill's criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between [aluminum] in vaccines and [autism spectrum disorder] may be causal.

the number of vaccinations recommended prior to school entry increased from 10 in the late 1970's to 32 in 2010, 18 of which contain [aluminum] adjuvants. During this same
period, the prevalence of autism spectrum disorders in the U.S. also increased by as much as 2000%.

[Aluminum] is an experimentally demonstrated neurotoxin whose ability to impact the human nervous system has been known for decades.

Our results, supported by the Hill's criteria for establishing causality between exposure and outcome, suggest that a causal relationship may exist between the amount of [aluminum] administered to preschool children at various ages through vaccination and the rising prevalence of [autism spectrum disorder].

[Aluminum] exposure from vaccines in the U.S. vaccination schedule from 1991 to 2008 shows a highly significant positive linear correlation with [autism spectrum disorder] prevalence at all three levels of exposure.

the number of [aluminum]-adjuvanted vaccines in the yearly vaccination schedules from 1991 to 2008 also yields a highly significant positive correlation with [autism disorder spectrum] prevalence.

A pilot study showed higher than normal [aluminum] levels in the hair, blood and/or urine of autistic children. The correlation between the severity of signs and symptoms and the behavioral pattern found in many patients appeared to be compatible with metabolism disturbances provoked by [aluminum] overload.

[Aluminum] is known to disrupt the blood brain barrier and can increase its permeability by increasing the rate of trans-membrane diffusion and by selectively altering saturable transport system.

A Positive Association Found Between Autism Prevalence And Childhood Vaccination Uptake Across The U.S. Population

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Although individuals probably have a genetic predisposition to develop autism, researchers suspect that one or more environmental triggers are also needed. One of those triggers might be the battery of vaccinations that young children receive.

The higher the proportion of children receiving recommended vaccinations, the higher was the prevalence of [autism] or [speech or language impairment]. A 1% increase in vaccination was associated with an additional 680 children having [autism] or [speech or language impairment].

although mercury has been removed from many vaccines, other culprits may link vaccines to autism.

More studies besides Wakefield's show a correlation between vaccines and autism, but cool story bro.

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2009185)

So, some studies say that vaccine ingredients contribute to austism and some say the opposite. So, we're back where we started.

So again your position should be i dont know. Its okay to not know.

Aluminum hasn't been used in vaccines for years.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2009202)

is there anything that would convince you vaccines are safe

Ingredients differ between vaccines. Some of those ingredients are dangerous to the human body in the amounts contained in those vaccines. So, unless they remove those dangerous adjuvants from ALL vaccines, then I must answer "NO" to your question, since we are going to use the term "vaccines" in such a blanket manner.

Why do you want to keep arguing with me in every goddamn thread? Is it to prove that you are more stubborn than me?

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2009211)

Why do you want to keep arguing with me in every goddamn thread? Is it to prove that you are more stubborn than me?

The way that we define autism causes far more children to be defined as autistic where they wouldn't have before. Hence a seeming increase in autism.

These are incredibly well established, well researched facts. This is a discussion forum. You purport to be all about the truth, I'm doing you a service.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2009202)

how does it feel to be a flat Earther

I'm not a flat-Earther. That is a psy-op designed to discredit and divide the truther community.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2009212)

The way that we define autism causes far more children to be defined as autistic where they wouldn't have before. Hence a seeming increase in autism.

These are incredibly well established, well researched facts. This is a discussion forum. You purport to be all about the truth, I'm doing you a service.

There was a re-classification and they (APA) brought different neurodevelopmental disorders reclassified them and placed under the umbrella of Austism spectrum disorder (ASD). I see what you are saying and it does follow that a broader definition would include more than a narrower definition. But even so, it does seem there is an increase. It something that goes beyond the problem of comparing stats of today than a few decades ago. There are some sources e.g. the CDC that says there is an increase.

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2009217)

I'm not a flat-Earther. That is a psy-op designed to discredit and divide the truther community.

If you want to be taken seriously then you should stop using words like "psy-op". Makes it sound like you're actually wearing a tin foil hat as we speak.

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 2009250)

If you want to be taken seriously then you should stop using words like "psy-op". Makes it sound like you're actually wearing a tin foil hat as we speak.

My hat is actually pure aluminum, not tin.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/p...lfoil_2322.jpg

Self-depreciation won’t help deflect all the ****ty and harmful misinformation you’ve been touting- literally everyone is telling you you’re full of **** - you’re not the only one who understands- you’re an ******* who refuses to take a look at yourself and to get yourself together

I know it would be painful to be honest with yourself at this point but you really should

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2009285)

What misinformation? I'm willing to agree to disagee.

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2009217)

I'm not a flat-Earther. That is a psy-op designed to discredit and divide the truther community.

I would be rolling on the floor laughing if I wasn't so busy being dumbstruck and speechless.

Has this been posted in the 12 plus pages of this? Ehh maybe.

Mainstream Vaccine Propaganda Demolished by INFORMED MOM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4qYhzn160k

Good for her!!!!!!! -- THEY COULDNT SILENCE HER WITH THIER BS!!!!!

Are you being sarcastic or retarded?

No im not buddy im just sharing the video......

OccultHawk can't handle real life examples of vaccine damage.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2009285)

Self-depreciation

*deprecation

you autistic retard

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Originally Posted by Zhanteimi (Post 2010751)

*deprecation

you autistic retard

Bets on whether or not OH is fully vaccinated?