Guybrush

Yeah, I wasn't actually replying to you, it was added through a little multi-quote action on my part (I seem to be a bit mentally preoccupied today). What I read from AwwSugar's post was that she thought this girl was obnoxious (which I may agree with) and since she wrote this to me, I figured she was defending Buzz for dropping the door on her.

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Removed your quotation.

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The Batlord

Didn't say that it was. It's just reality. Women got married to men largely because it was society's expectation that they get married and have babies. If they didn't and tried to support themselves, they were seen as immoral or strange. Now that those expectations are going the way of the dinosaur (and good riddance I might add) the institution of marriage that largely depended on those expectations is being weakened. ::shrugs:: What are you going to do?

Much good has come of this (women are no longer second class citizens in their own culture, they can decide their own future without the input of an arbitrary dominant male figure, etc, etc, etc), but that doesn't mean that it has all been good. Nothing that happens has all good consequences, just like nothing that happens has all bad consequences. The Holocaust was horrible, but would anti-semitism still be as marginalized in society as it is today if it hadn't happened? Does that mean that it's a good thing that the Holocaust happened? Of course not. But it's still one good thing that happened because of it.

Feminism is the same. Everything that happens as a consequence of feminism is not going to be all lollipops and roses. I think many women were trapped in marriage because...well, what else were they gonna do? And yet our entire society is based on the man/woman/child family unit. For thousands of years humans evolved to live in a society where it was the norm, and to raise there children accordingly. We are psychologically conditioned to live in this world. Now in the past few decades this millenia old tradition has been drastically and irreparably changed. This can not possibly have no effect on society. And it will take several generations at least to evolve to be able to deal with this new world we find ourselves in.

That being said, it would not be possible, even if I wanted to, to go back to the old ways. We are evolving as a culture beyond those old and outdated modes of human interaction as we are evolving beyond slavery, racism, and pedophilia.

That was what I was trying to say. Sorry if it came out as anti-feminist. I just thought that it would have been pointless to come out and just say that I supported feminism and leave it at that, and I was feeling kinda lazy about posting some huge post.

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Sansa Stark

Ah, good explanation then

The Batlord

If it were me, I would have been a mature non-douche and held the door for everyone else, walked out and looked back at the girl to make sure she got the door before I let go of it. Assuming of course that she was the bitch you claimed she was, and you're not just being disingenous.

Besides, if you're so chivalrous, then I think that you would have come to the conclusion that no matter how much of a bitch a woman is that it is never allowed to hurt a woman.

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James

So Buzzhoven was banned because of the feminism thread. What was that thread involving boo boo and lots of banning about? Oh yeah, feminism. This is why I hate this subforum, it only causes trouble. And don't play the friendly debate card, because when people are getting banned, it's not friendly debate.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

I blame women too, dammit!

...I tend to disagree, though. If people can't keep their tempers down, and be respectful to each other. It's not really the forum's fault.

I mean, we can't ban opinions just because people can't handle other's. Buzz*oven seemed very aggressive from the get go. I see no problem in the mods putting him aside to cool off.

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Guybrush

Buzzov*en is on a 24 hours temp ban for trolling, something which did not happen exclusively in this thread. He did recieve a warning first which he replied to by trolling some more with a couple of posts that have since been deleted.

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If you have any questions or problems regarding Buzzov*en's ban, I suggest you send me or another moderator a private message. That also goes for Buzzov*en when he gets back.

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The Batlord

If opinions weren't worth getting pissed about, then what would be life be good for?

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Arya Stark

I don't believe you let the door close on the person, no. And I'm not standing for that person from before.

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See this is where I would be different. That person was rude. I would probably say something about how rude they are and how people like them don't deserve to have the door held open for them. It's never happened to me, though. It just seems like you would let that person think it's okay to be so rude, and I would never handle a situation like that in just an easygoing manner. I don't care if someone has had a bad day, I don't care, I did not do anything to deserve that, and I went out of my way to hold the door open for them. I do it all of the time, it's just something I think is right.
The buzz person held the door open for someone and when they told him not to, he let go. The fact that he's happy it hit her is not something I'm okay with, but the fact that she was so rude for no reason and then ended up getting hit with the door? Her fault. She should have picked a better ****ing time to say she didn't want the door open. That actually genuinely angers me that the bitch was so rude. I get you're not handicapped, I get you can open the door by yourself, but you can at least appreciate the fact that I chose to hold the door open for you. It doesn't show you're independent, it shows you're an unappreciative ****.
God I just got myself so angry. lol.

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Buzzov*en

I really had no emotion when she got hit with the door. I wasn't jumping for joy, but I also was not shedding any tears saying sorry to her for it happening.

That is how I look at it. I hold the door for both genders because it is the polite thing to do. She felt that I was holding the door for her because she was a woman and I did not think she could do it herself. Not the reason at all.
Last night at work. I was walking out of the building and 4 girls were walking I had 4 boxes in my hand and heard them coming I couldn't use my hand so I stopped and used my foot while standing on my bad knee. They said I didn't have to do that and I said I know. There are times I do not because I am in my own world and the door winds up hitting someone, but then I say sorry to them.

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