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Old 12-31-2010, 06:06 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Well Vanilla, ya jackass, I was writing out a traditionally incendiary response to this question when none other than my Feminist girlfriend asked what it was that I was working on.

I started writing that 90 ****ING MINUTES AGO. This is the last time I do anything like this when she's home.


Oh you old hooch.

I think there is still a sense of females being unconfident in the workplace around men. There is still strong elements of sexual misconduct where men think they can talk and behave the way they want around women. I think this needs to be addressed. Women get told off for wearing to little or too much at work. What happened to the freedom to look the way you want?
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:00 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Dressing too little seems to be mostly something women do here, but I'm sure men could get some negative reactions if they did it. At the biological institute in Oslo, the most common fashion mistake perpetuated by men seems to be walking around the building wearing socks in sandals.

To add something a bit more serious, I think men on average come across as a bit more authorative or how you spell it and have an easier way communicating and getting what they want because of it. I'm not sure of that, but I think it might be true. Anyways, as stated, I believe we need people watching out for the best interests/equality of both men and women.
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Old 01-01-2011, 07:02 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I think there is still a sense of females being unconfident in the workplace around men. There is still strong elements of sexual misconduct where men think they can talk and behave the way they want around women. I think this needs to be addressed. Women get told off for wearing to little or too much at work. What happened to the freedom to look the way you want?
I can only speak for my own country, but over here in my experience and in the experience of other people I've talked to it's women who are most likely to be throwing around inappropriate sexual remarks and whatnot in the workplace. Over the past couple decades sexual harassment rules have been hammered into men's heads pretty hard, it's women who generally haven't gotten the message, or at least think that it doesn't apply to them.

As far as workplace dress codes being some kind of feminist issue, if you think about it, that's really a pretty funny suggestion. Women have so much more freedom than men with what they wear around an office, if anyone should be complaining about it, it's men.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:52 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Amen, brother.

Jeans, Flip flops, wearing opposite genders clothes, braclets, necklaces...

Unless you're in IT, you can't get away with ANY of that **** as a guy.
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Old 01-03-2011, 01:15 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:06 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I think there is still a sense of females being unconfident in the workplace around men. There is still strong elements of sexual misconduct where men think they can talk and behave the way they want around women. I think this needs to be addressed. Women get told off for wearing to little or too much at work. What happened to the freedom to look the way you want?
I don't see it that way. Here, in a typical office job, there are certainly restrictions on how much skin you can show, but in my experience, women have more choices on what they can wear to work. Women can wear pantsuits, skirts, dresses, etc, and I think there is also more freedom as to what a woman can wear on Casual Friday (for example), as long as it's not going beyond the set dress code. For men, in the office it is mainly a suit and tie, and maybe (depending on how liberal your boss is) a golf shirt and slacks or something, and on Casual Friday, maybe jeans and a nice shirt. How boring, I totally understand. It's just one step up from wearing a uniform, I think.

In my opinion, I think women who dress more freely at work (like a casual sundress instead of a pantsuit, for instance) look less professional. If a woman is dealing with the public, she is representing the company to potential clients, and as such, she should dress that way.

And I'm a woman if there are still some of you who don't know that yet
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:35 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Sometimes I want to go to work naked... then again, I had a very troubled childhood...

Anyway, I've never worked a place with sexual misconduct ever so I'm not sure how common it is, or isn't. However, to me, Women never seem to really go intimidated. I've seen many men hit on women at work but it's usually nervous nerdy fellows who don't know how to do it right, and the women they hit on barely know it's happening. (I once was in a situation where one female coworker was rambling on about another's hygiene, and a tall male coworker used the line - and I'm not making this up - "Yeah, I used to shower twice a day just in case." The most utterly hilarious attempt at a line I've ever heard in my life.)

As for work wear. I don't know, I have no problem with workers having absolutely no freedom at all whatsoever to wear what they want. You're there to work, really, and you get paid to do it. Why the hell do you need to wear your personality on your sleeve?
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:37 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Equal? The tables have turned. If a women is promoted over a man it's equal opportunity, if a man is promoted over a woman, it's sexist.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:51 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Overall I approve of the feminist movement. I would never want to force a woman to cook or clean for me. But I do think that it has caused some adverse effects. Law of unintended consequences and all. I think that the new trend of divorce and a general weakening of the old family dynamic has caused serious problems for children. Not that I think we should go back to the old ways, I just think that we have a few generations to get used to the new roles of women and men.

I know I may have oversimplified things, but it's a long winded topic and I was sorta trying to condense my basic premise.
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That makes it sound as though divorce wouldn't occur if women stayed housewives, though I'm positive that isn't what you meant.
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