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View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion 20 43.48%
A little observant 3 6.52%
Middle-of-the-road observance 11 23.91%
Strict adherence to religious rules 4 8.70%
Don't know 8 17.39%
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:06 PM   #441 (permalink)
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:36 PM   #442 (permalink)
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:23 PM   #443 (permalink)
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Was it? You haven't exactly made a strong case here.


And plants existed before to sun too, right? That's what the Bible says so it must be true.
I'm not positive but I believe it was.

I never claimed the bible to be scientifically accurate in it's entirety. I just Said it did get a few things right. And don't act like I'm someone who thinks everything in the bible is true. It certainly isnt. I'm no Christian
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:45 PM   #444 (permalink)
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I'm not positive but I believe it was.

I never claimed the bible to be scientifically accurate in it's entirety. I just Said it did get a few things right. And don't act like I'm someone who thinks everything in the bible is true. It certainly isnt. I'm no Christian
he made light and dark first before anything

so he made the Sun first
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:07 PM   #445 (permalink)
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he made light and dark first before anything

so he made the Sun first
Nope. He divided light from darkness on the first day but he didn't make the sun until the fourth day.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:25 AM   #446 (permalink)
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Well how could he do that if there was no sun? Seems like another question of bible interpretation
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:08 AM   #447 (permalink)
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Well how could he do that if there was no sun? Seems like another question of bible interpretation
The implication there is that you're suggesting there was no "light" prior to the sun. I'd imagine that biblically speaking, they'd probably say that he simply harnessed some of the light already in existence (because of his creation, maybe? Or perhaps light predates God. Ooo, ahhh) to create the sun; the sun is not the only star, nor is it the oldest by a long shot.

Kind of playing devil's (God's?) advocate here, because I think the whole thing is shenanigans if taken in a literal sense.
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I don't think it is supposed to be taken in a literal sense. I guess there's really no way to tell. There's bound to be some symbolism in there.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:39 AM   #450 (permalink)
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Well how could he do that if there was no sun? Seems like another question of bible interpretation
I'm going to agree with Phanastasio here, the sun isn't the only source of light in the universe! Anyway, it seems that all hell has been let loose since I last posted.

If the bible is interpreted absolutely literally, then this will lead to obvious absurdities like creationism.
If you do that, you might as well go "deeper" and interpret the phrase "four corners of the earth" literally, and conclude that the world must be rectangular.

You have no idea how many atheists I've encountered have thought that last point was a damning and conclusive argument not to believe in God.
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