Paedantic Basterd

I guess it's not an option for France to respect any culture other than French?

djchameleon

Seems that way, that's why i say it's better to move to another country that is more respectful of other cultures/religions.

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Scarlett O'Hara

**** that. I am not going to move out a country I am now a citizen just because the country's law will not accept my religion dress. It's wrong to stereotype an entire religion as extremists in the first place, so taking away the right for women to wear a burka is reinforcing this stereotype.

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Howard the Duck

they fucking hate the English, as far as I know

on topic - Muslim women here only cover their hair, burqas are strongly discouraged here, mostly citing it's a desert thing to keep the sand out of their faces

there's no neccessity to wear a hair scarf, neither is there any prohibition against burqas here but most Muslim girls wear hair-scarves

and neways, Muslims here are horny as all get out, I don't see how a burqa would be of any help

Scissorman

Ok, this is a topic that I know a lot about, since I study Arabic language and literature, and the Islamic culture studies go with that. Anyway, many experts agree that burqa isn't something Islamic and that it came from the period before Islam. When Islam came to be, some famous women wore burqa as a fashion accessory and that's how it became connected to Islam. I always said that fashion is something that will ruin humanity.
And today in many countries women wear burqas and they think that it's the only way. If someday someone said that they are no longer obligated to wear them, I am sure that most of them still would do it.
Last year I studied modern Arabic literature and for that class I had to read a lot of Arabic books, and the one I liked the most was Dreams of Trespass: Tales of a Harem Girlhood written by Fatema Mernissi, a Moroccan sociologist and feminist. The book is written in the form of memoirs, but mostly deals with Mernissi's childhood, as harems were still legal in Morocco when she was a child. Anyway, Mernissi, a feminist, says that the women are equally responsible for the inequity as men are, and that is very well explained in the book

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Dotoar

Worse, it's violating the basic human rights.

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Liljagare

Isn't France's opposition to the burka, now made law, essentially against the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights (ironically adopted in France)?

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."

If you consider the burka as a representation of one's religious belief, than taking it away goes against this article. I guess the question would be, shouldn't muslim women have the democratic right to wear what they want just as the Western women have the right to wear miniskirts (and essentially these women being banned from the burka are Western women as well)? I wonder what would happen if there was a ban on immodesty honestly.

Dotoar

Which only goes to show that the so-called 'human rights' as declared by the UN isn't worth the ink it's printed with.

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djchameleon

Why would you want to stay in a country that clearly doesn't respect your right to religion?

They aren't going to just change their decision. I think it's better to move to a country that will instead of being stubborn and staying somewhere like that but that's just my opinion.

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captaincaptain

That's the first time I laughed today, I love the saying "as all get out". Thanks!