duga

Well, that's why we should all keep our assumptions to ourselves, right? I'm just being realistic. You can't honestly tell me you don't operate under certain assumptions...regardless of how small or non-offensive they may seem. You can try to tell me otherwise, but I'm not sure there is anything you can say to make me feel you don't do this. It's human nature. If you like to keep your desk organized, chances are you put people into certain categories as well. A racist is someone who sees those categories as absolutes.

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hip hop bunny hop

The validity of those arguments aside (hello, strawman!); those are arguments people who are anti-immigrant would make. A racist, on the topic of immigration, would just want to limit immigration to those of the same race.

So, for example, if citizens of Nation X had an average IQ of 85, you'd be fine with saying most of them are dumbasses?

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Salami

Come on, you're talking as if "Every British person I've met is obnoxious" is just as valid an objective assessment as a scientifically conducted study.

If there really was a way of accurately determining the average IQ of a nation, you ought to find all of them are roughly the same, and any extremities are imbalanced.

Unknown Soldier

A racist in Europe is anti-immigration, his/her anger is vented towards those of a different colour or culture coming in from the outside and threatening their way of life. Its much rarer to actually find people that just hate another race or culture just for the sake of it (there is normally a trigger factor or reason for their way of thinking). Your definition is actually pigeon-holing anti-immigration and racism into two different categories, whilst not disagreeing with the point you've raised its very much horses for courses. In the USA anti-immigration is very un-American, as the country was built on immigration so the anti-immigration card doesn't carry the same weight that it does in Europe. The American form of racism tends to go for segregation, as in my kind shouldn't live with your kind etc (as seen with segregation in the southern states) So as you see, racism in the USA is somewhat different in practice to that of racism in Europe which is focused around anti-immigration.

Rubato

lol no, evry1 is equals and intelligant in of they're own specail way <3

Is this a trap of some sort? ignoring the validity of IQ scores as a measure of someones intelligence (I'm not versed on the subject) and assuming a low IQ was a good representation of someones dumbassery, if a majority of a nations inhabitants scored poorly then yes I'd say a majority of them are dumbasses. The problem is, being born on that side of the rock doesn't make you a dumbass, being a dumbass makes you a dumbass.

The Irish make good programmers, not because our nation is special but because many major computer companies have set up base here, with a lot of jobs going in the computer industry we've invested more in that sector and thus produced more programmers, with more people entering that area the bar gets raised so the quality goes up, that being said if you were going to hire me to do programming you'd be better off hiring a carrot.

duga

When I meet someone face to face I do my best to not make assumptions, so I'm with you there. You giving any credence to statistics is exactly what I'm talking about, though. As much as you want to think your mind is judgement free, it's not. The human brain is just too stubborn.

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MoonlitSunshine

It's what I'm talking about as well. From a more extreme sense, but I think I have a rather cynical view of humanity in general.

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Goofle

This thread title is racist.

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Goofle

You can prove anytning with facts... :p

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hip hop bunny hop

And if the facts are inconvenient, just throw some "scary quotes" around them, and proceed to deny, deny, deny.

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