RVCA

Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but Steve is undoubtedly one of the most inane forumers I've ever seen

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Thanks Duce. It's alright. I have no idea what a forum troll is, but, maybe I do belong in that category. But, the very fact that you say you understand my rants is somewhat vindicating. So, those of you who say you do not understand, because, I am inane, pointless, vague, nonsensical, or any other reason used to claim that your lack of understanding is due to my lack of clarity or ignorance, look at this reply.

Someone understands. If one person gets it, why don't all of you?

And Duce, who is to say that you have not come to full gnosis? I will 'never, ever' imply that again. It was wrong if I did. Who am I to measure anyone but myself? I simply would not wish my experience on anyone. Knowledge is not the problem. It's wisdom. Not Wisdom, but, the 'little wisdom'. The wrathful wisdom, Echamoth, I believe it is spoken of in the Gospel of Phillip. I cannot read any writings as of yet, but, it is a very revealing scroll. I can't recommend that you read anything, only to say that it is the most revealing writing for anyone seeking gnosis from a standpoint of that lawyer you spoke of Duce, in my opinion of course. If you decide to read it, look carefully for the hidden name. Have it, know it, but, don't speak it. I believe it says something to that effect. Actually, I know it does. It is also something I have learned through experience. That lawyer is someone I should have ran from years ago, but, I will never deny that Faith or testimony. He is the only one I still trust, but, I do not believe that He is a public defender as the current interpretation portrays. Measure carefully when separating the wheat from tares. Use love as a scale. If it stacks up to love, store it. If it doesn't, consider the chaff. I am basing that on personal experience, which is what I have to do. It is also expressed by the author of Phillip, whoever that may have been.

Parable of the talents. I believe that involves how we are measured. How much are we given, and, how much we bring back. Knowledge is symbolized by the talents, I am reasonably certain. Which is exactly what you are doing. So, more will be given as you progress.

For everyone else, forget it. It's pointless, inane, incoherent rambling from a forum troll. I have no clue, or any understanding of anything. Who is to say what is Truth, and, what is not? Is everything True, or nothing? So, if you do not understand, or think to debate or sling the mud, just go about your business, and, just assume I am inane, and pointless.

'All the world is a stage, and, we are merely actors'. Was Shakespeare on to something? I believe he was. It is something that is confirmed in the Koran very clearly, and, implied symbolically elsewhere. It's a passion play. But, 'matter gave birth to a passion contrary to nature'. Ego, and passionate desire, I believe, but again, what do I know? Nothing.

I've written pages that I cut and pasted. Enough already I suppose. I don't want anyone to misunderstand me, and, choose the little nasty labels and names people seem to ascribe when they do not understand. It's a common theme that gets old.

I am also now 'undoubtedly the most inane forumer ever seen'. Ignorance never ceases to rear it's ugly head. I didn't see the name, but, I saw a picture. And, it spoke a thousand words. 'Tit for tat' dude. Or, did I confuse you? Are you the expert on judging what is pointless, foolish, or who is empty-headed? It was not even an opinion. It was a factual statement of certainty. It wreaked of pompous arrogance. I very well may be inane. Maybe we all are. At least I do know that my sh*t stinks. And, I can sniff a rat's as* from anywhere. Even a flying rodent.

Here's a great song Duce. Which is actually what I wanted to post on your reply. It's hard for me to see the glass as half-full. That is my biggest problem. I am actually starting to think that maybe things have happened to teach me to be more positive. And, I say that the comments don't bother me, but, they kind of do. I don't enjoy pretending. I am not the person you all see in my rants. If you actually talked to me in person, you all would not be making the comments, I assure you.

Quickly and briefly I will address the Twins. One example.

'Good and/or evil'.

The and/or conjunctions of polar opposites. Siamese Twins. We can't reverse them, but, we can resolve them through the use of similes.

Good is to evil, as evil is to good. And, then see how the Tao concurs.

'Man sees things as good, herein lies evil'. It's the sameness.

'The sameness is the mystery. Mystery within mystery. The door to all marvels'

Do I recommend the Book of Tao? No way. No one understands that little book. I do. And, when you are resigned to the wordless teaching, it has the capability of torment, and, horrific beyond any Stephen King novel. It is not exactly a book that teaches. It is a book of confirmation. And, I cannot look at it as of yet. I will eventually have to, because, I will not never stop trying. This is why I say that no one wants my understanding. And, it is possible that it is simply my negative attitude that inhibits me from seeing things differently. I will go to my grave attempting to see things in a positive light. It is the Way. But, the Way to what? I do not want to lead anyone to a Way that I cannot verify as the right way.

I will before I pass on, hopefully, address and interpret that book completely. I am able now, but, I really am leery, and, when I looked at it the last time, it was an easy read that confirmed some serious dark fears. I got through half, and, had to stop. And, that is when I completely understood the concepts presented in that dangerous little book.

'Heaven and earth will pass away, and, the one above that will pass away. But, my Words will never pass away'

That is why 'holding until full is not as good as knowing when to stop'.

'Who better to learn from than the beasts of the earth'. And, that lawyer portrayed a lot of different beasts. He was waylaid in the end. Deceived and forsaken. It was because it was on that cross that He was divided. They rent His garments, and, cast them for lots. He was actually cluing us in at various points to gain understanding, that I still stand by as positive.

'And, the disciples were divided amongst themselves. And, He said to them, who made me a divider? I am not a divider, am I?

I always preached head east. I will not anymore. It's seems to be even more divisive, while claiming unification. And, I am not sure that self-realization is not something to be avoided; which western religion inhibits, and, possibly for the best. Are we all connected in a oneness? I used to think so, but, I am considering the possibility that it may be a trap. I don't know anymore. I know the ways things are, and, there is nothing in or around us that does not spell fire, and retention.

Duce, I will also at some point address my real concern with the Demiurge. It involves someone I feel somewhat connected to, and, a name that popped into my head many times early on in my experience. Sophia. She may very well be the one who was there in the beginning as a sort of guardian type spirit, who delivered many of the original messages, and, outlined the set of events that were to take place in my journey. Everything revealed came to pass exactly as I was informed. And, I was informed that I would eventually know who She was, and, if I wanted to call Her anything, call Her Wisdom. The name was never crystal clear, but, I knew it started with an S, and sounded out as though it could have been Sophia, I can't be sure. But, I have this sense that somewhere along the line, I may have caused something, or made a mistake.

You know the story. Maybe I am mistaken, but, I do feel an obligation to at least attempt to correct something. I don't remember anything, and, was always under the impression that I was reaping what I did not sow. The evidence suggests otherwise to be sure. I do know that I have a penny sealed in an envelope

Anyway, the artist is a dude named Dave Hause. He is the lead singer and guitarist for a post-hardcore band called The Loved Ones. And, I really love when the punks go folk and solo. I don't know why they do it, but, a ton of them do, and it's great music.




Years from now you'll hear this song and probably laugh
You'll have learned, and you'll think you can do better
And lord knows you probably will
And lord knows I hope you will

Years from now someone will break your little heart
It'll sting, but don't let it callous over
The first cut stings the most
The first cut always stings the most

Years from now, when what they taught you all seems strange
Don't despair, the stranger it gets the better
It's the fear that can drag you down
Don't let your fear come along and drag you down

Years from now, they'll promise pleasure, pills and wine
Go on try them all, but make sure your mama knows you love her
Lord knows you probably will
Lord knows... I hope you will
I hope you will

Years from now Jesus may keep you up at night
If he's still around I doubt he really means to scare you
I think He's misunderstood
Oh, don't you hate being misunderstood?
I hate being misunderstood
I hate being misunderstood

Years from now you'll hear this song and probably laugh
You'll have learned, and you'll think you can do better
And lord knows you probably will
And lord knows... I hope you will

And, I do really hate being misunderstood. But, this song brings some comfort to me. And, He is misunderstood. And please, understand Him. Read John 7:17 Measure.

I am sorry again for the length. I wrote 20 pages. I posted very little

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SIRIUSB

You certainly can fill up a post, I'll give you that!
I never said you were "inane, pointless, vague, nonsensical" I simply am saying you are WRONG in your religious worldview.

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TaRkHeM

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SIRIUS, I was not referring to you at all. It had nothing to do with you. I apologize if you felt it did. It's not about disagreeing, and, making valid observations. It's the one or two line smack that seems to pop-up quite often.

You are correct. I can fill some space. 43 pages on this reply alone I cut and pasted. I have this file called 'random postings'. I've never posted any of it!

And, finally it hit me. You're right. My worldview is WRONG. Not the knowledge. The 'view'. It is too negative. Thanks for screaming it at me. I needed to hear it. Your view as it applies to the 'light bringer' is definitely not wrong, according to the story. That name did not appear until 1611, the day that we first saw the KJV 'standing in the holy place'. In a pew of the Anglican church. 'Let the reader understand'.

No more of my rants involving attempting to make everything True. I've known for a long time that it was sacrificed. Crucified. If you get my drift.

And, the one thing I have never done. I have never allowed another human being to teach me anything when it comes to my worldview. I have done the works, and, do not rely on other men to form my belief system. It is our cross to bear, and, our own burdens to carry. But, maybe that is my mistake. I don't listen to other men, or obey, and, that includes myself.

And, if Faith is accounted for righteousness, then that is what I rely on. Not a human sacrifice, except my own. And, I've done it daily for a while. 'It is finished'. Or, is it? Martyrdom. It was a choice. I made the choice without a moment's thought. I don't know why, but, that's what I did.

Then He said unto his disciples, 'if any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow after me'

You shed some SIRIUS light on something I was totally misinterpreting. I thought it was a denial of pride, ego, and other negative emotions. It is a denial of myself completely, and, who and what I was connecting myself to, in regard to the ties that bind.

'If you wish to swim on the bosom of the ocean of Truth, you must reduce yourself to a zero'. Now, I know exactly what Gandhi meant by this. And, I have you to thank for that. Thanks.

I pondered your reply for a week or so. I do not normally misunderstand any posts, but, I had to ponder yours, and, why you shouted WRONG.

And, SIRIUS, I far from know everything. I don't know. I know I have to lose those ties that bind. But, I am well prepared for the onslaught that came as a level 17 hurricane. Blew off all my horns and heads. I'm the hornless, headless horseman

'Ties that bind'. That would have been a better way to express 'constraint'.

But, I do not 'abide in my accomplishments'. Or, simply 'practice what I preach'. I told others not to 'constrain' themselves, when I was doing that very thing. Hypocrisy.

'Who better to learn from than the beasts of the earth'? Beasts are men SIRIUS. And, symbolically represented as animals, and trees are the teachings, and the men who are credited as the authors. Fruit is the knowledge, and, leaves are pages. Seeds are the Words. The various 'rules' are the ties that bind, and, the names we connect.

But, we are beasts. And, I did learn a lot from that one single Word. WRONG.

Here is what I would prefer the worldview to consist of for myself and everyone.

'What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. This is the whole law, everything else is commentary'.

'Love one another, as I have loved you. There is no greater love than this; that a man lay down his life for his friends'

Or, even as the Wicca points out.

'Do what you will, harm no one'. Evil witches

But, you have not been privy to my experience. It's not a privilege. And, if you had, you would not have been able to withstand it. It would have blown your mind. And, I am certain of that. Nothing personal, but, it about blew mine. As, I said, I was prepared, and, that was with some guidance and restraint. And, I take no credit. Be thankful, and, it does involve Faith to be sure. And, more of a long jump, not simply a 'leap'.



But, you do know at least what you profess to worship. So, have Faith, and, everyone get off the good and evil train. It is one or the other, or neither. Not both. This I know. And, Truth or lies? They are not antonyms. But, it is an all or nothing thing. Or, is it? Or, do we create our own, and, live out that creation?

It is certainly a trial and error process. And, I have made my share of errors. This I also know. But, my intentions are not wrong. I really do not like warning people. It is rather hateful to me. But, I have done it, because, I was informed by someone else that I needed to, not out of want. It's an act. And, I will not attempt to clean up anyone's, until I clean up my own.

And, I am accused of being a lot of things. But, the one thing is the fact that I am not obstinate. I am not unwavering, or steadfast to the point of obnoxiousness. I'm not a Philistine. And, you did enlighten me to some things I needed to see. And, thank you very much for screaming it.

Here is the point of this rant. No matter your intentions, just know that you have done something positive for another human being. And, it is my belief that it will be accounted to you for righteousness. That is what I believe.

You brought some light, 'oh day star, son of the dawn' And, you are certainly not the 'arch enemy' that the 'religious' people seem to connect that name with. I needed to see that I am not as well. How can either a 'Light bearer/bringer', or the 'Light of the world' be a 'Prince of darkness'?

You definitely shed some Light on something I was not viewing so clearly.

I will not preach anything, until I practice what I preach. I will make the tree good, and, the fruit good. I will see things in a positive Light. Or, I will die trying. And, I will come back, and, do it again if necessary. I will never deny the Faith, and the Word of the testimony of Duce's lawyer. Never. And, I will never blaspheme the Spirit of that feeling of agape love, and everything we define as goodness. I will never believe anything that suggests a good and bad Spirit, as it applies to a singular entity. That is a creation of man which I refuse to believe. I will also no longer see in others what I saw in myself. And, I will try my absolute best not to view myself in that manner.

Consider this reply to be a self-reflection, and, not as debate. I am not disagreeing with your reply. It was spot on, and, accurate.

There is supposed to be one knowledge. But, you are right. There is way more than one knowledge. Why? It has become something of a competition. And, divisive to the point of absolute chaos.

Until I reconsider the manner of which I present my views. Just consider this to be my worldview.

I don't believe that there are any bad guys.

It's a story. Of a lovely lady. Who was bringing up three very lovely girls. All of them had hair of gold, like their mother. The youngest one in curls. It's a story. Of a man named Brady. Who was bringing up three boys of his own. They were four men. Living all together. Yet they were all alone. Till the one day when this lady met this fellow. And, they knew that it was much more than a hunch. That this crew would somehow form a family.

That's the way we all became the Brady Bunch!

Furthermore, I totally made an observation concerning crukster that was way off! Anyone who thinks I need professional help should look at that last post of his! Wow!

I will sit back for a bit, and observe. I have taken your words to heart, SIRIUS.

No more 'habla, habla, habla, no dice nada'. Certainly, 'menos practicar'.

He had a thousand ideas, you might have heard his name
He lived alone with his vision
Not looking for fortune or fame
Never said too much to speak of
He was off on another plane
The words that he said were a mystery
Nobody's sure he was sane

But he knew, he knew more than me or you
No one could see his view, Oh where was he going to

He was in search of an answer
The nature of what we are
He was trying to do it a new way
He was bright as a star
But nobody understood him
"His numbers are not the way"
He's lost in the deepest enigma
Which no one's unraveled today

But he knew, he knew more than me or you
No one could see his view, Oh where was he going to
And he tried, but before he could tell us he died
When he left us the people cried,
Oh where was he going to?

He had a different idea
A glimpse of the master plan
He could see into the future
A true visionary man
But there's something he never told us
It died when he went away
If only he could have been with us
No telling what he might say

But he knew, he knew more than me or you
No one could see his view
Oh, where was he going to
But he knew, you could tell by the picture he drew
It was totally something new,
Oh where was he going to?

Where are we going to? I've never expressed a 'religious worldview'. You did not know it, but, you saw it as WRONG. And, the view is something I need to change. I viewed the glass as one droplet from completely empty. No one is pointless. It is a matter of understanding. It took me a while, but, I did eventually see your point. And, it was helpful, and, eased quite a bit of torment. So, thank you again.

Take care mate. You've given me some peace of mind. I appreciate it.

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Fair enough. You move me, and I will move you into the 'most likely to be hanging upside down in a cave, as a flying rodent' category

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crukster

I dig what you're saying and retort it with the question what if your mind is in God?

The idea of a chaotic entity or force setting all else into being makes some sense, because it is as far removed from the limited Human perspective as you can get while still making some semblance of logical sense...the problem I have is when you mention the idea of linearity - that is something that has to be purely in the context of the Human mind or at least the concious mind; seeing as no Human or any known lifeform has the ability to create the Universe without, at the very least, the creation of some sort of machine, I don't believe that what we experience as reality is the most fundamental form of reality; maybe we have the greatest experience and cognitive awareness, but maybe bacteria makes better use of the space/time.

A chemical explanation is not completely mental; if I remember right in the Bible it says whenever there are 2 or more Christians present God is present. That could be explainable by chemicals, or even just a meditative attitude of "most efficient causality" i.e. getting from A to B in the straightest line possible for a conceptual metaphor.

What I wonder is if the entire concept of God exists purely as a socio-psychological justification for working together, because when everyone's got the right attitude two heads are better than one. Thats the basis of the argument for dismissing God, generally.

To me that's the basis of asking more questions - if it's true that all God is is collective conciousness, that is evident of an inherent greater reason for working together as a collective conciousness. I.e. why can I not do everything alone?

Which brings it back to what you said about linearity and my problem - if, for example in the book Starmaker, one were to achieve collective conciousness with all other beings through transcension of the physical mass, not just thinking the same but a pure infinite being made of all thought, would that amalgamatory conciousness experience reality in a linear sense?

Or, considering time and linearity amounts to relativity and decay of mass, would it experience "all reality" which is perhaps the most basic form of reality we know, construct of an atom, or maybe even more basic; perhaps all being, by extension "all time" is the timeless state of zero and maybe the individual experiences linearity only in context to all other collections of mass and energy, like fractured pieces of varying sizes of one mass in gravitational orbit relevant to all other mass I.e. it's only linear because there's something to move through; and I only exist because of my limitations.

Is that preset? Is freewill an illusion? Because I'm pretty sure I could burn it all. Can I? Or do I only think I can; and what is thought but a plan of action...

If you remove an individual from any sort of interaction with or relativity to any other mass of a non-zero value, will it cease to exist by definition?

Is God a lack of our existence, maybe we are the imperfect form of nothing; or is God our Ultimate; i.e. us all...

Or maybe there is literally something you can point to and say "God, Allah, Shiva, Buddha, Mercy". If that's the case, damn me to Hell if it isn't the most mindblowing thing I ever saw.


As for Jesus Christ, technically I adhere to the Islamic view, but I don't eat up Islamic propaganda.

In Islam Jesus Christ is just a man, a very great man, born of virgin mother, who I guess in a sense I view as someone who taught people how to find that A to B and how to work together to realise A to B, by getting nailed to a crucifix to show what happens when you don't.

In life, being as he was will probably get you far.

If you don't agree then as far as the crucifix is enough.


In a cosmical sense maybe this idea of what I want to call "efficiency" but understand the word is a limited Human idea is what will save the eternal energy of your mass from becoming a pile of crap.

Maybe we collect an energy or something, relevant to the space of nothingness we occupy... through causality, orbit, and action it grows and is made up of polar frequencies... maybe that is the soul.

Maybe a pure energy breaks down into fundamental atomic particles and maybe that "feels" to "You" like eternal bliss.


I don't believe Jesus Christ is God, because God is limitless. Any limited form claiming to be God is the Devil; because if you accept limitation as "your God" you stop exceeding it. There can be no "My God" "Your God" and possesive pronouns. I will try to be like Jesus, sure, and all the Abrahamic prophets, and I will get around to reading what they're teaching; cos I haven't even read all the Holy books. One thing I know for certain, he's not better than me, though. Only did greater things through greater understanding.

Howard the Duck

^^good to see you, crukster

lemme digest what you said and i'll get back to you

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crukster

Cool cool, good to be back man take as much time as you need no worries the post isn't going anywhere

KMS

< Uncut with wicked overhang, as a man should be. A parent, doctor or religious official has no right to make a decision such as having fully functional genitalia or not for a child. Should be criminalized. A consenting adult can modify their body in anyway they like, but child circumcision is insanity.

crukster

There are proven medical benefits such as decreased risk of STDs if you outlaw child circumcision you outlaw setting a broken bone or removing the appendix of children too.

Makes no difference to the functionality man, I've been snipped and my dick works just as well as before.