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Old 12-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Your morals do describe how you react to other's morals too.

But yeah, I was/am being a bit pedantic there for the sake of it.
But does that intrinsically make me think my morals are superior to others?

I would say no, but that seems to be what hhbh is telling me.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:48 PM   #72 (permalink)
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But does that intrinsically make me think my morals are superior to others?

I would say no, but that seems to be what hhbh is telling me.
In my opinion the simple fact that you picked them as your morals shows that on some level you think they are superior to other morals, while simultaneously preventing you from thinking yourself to be superior to people who have different morals.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:14 PM   #73 (permalink)
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In my opinion the simple fact that you picked them as your morals shows that on some level you think they are superior to other morals, while simultaneously preventing you from thinking yourself to be superior to people who have different morals.
Doesn't make sense to me. If you recognize morals are not above humanity (no holistic morals), and that your morals are determined only by your life experiences and genetics, you will not feel that they are superior. Only that they are the best at looking out for your self-interests
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:26 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Doesn't make sense to me. If you recognize morals are not above humanity (no holistic morals), and that your morals are determined only by your life experiences and genetics, you will not feel that they are superior. Only that they are the best at looking out for your self-interests
If that is the case then your life experience and genetics have caused you to determine that those are the best morals, even if you recognise that they could be different.

But we're getting a bit cyclical here.

At the end of the day, I think your morals can't show anything other than what you think is best at that point in time, (even if they include not judging other morals). Maybe you think otherwise, which I'm fine with.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:29 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Speaking of which, a tiger/lion hybrid mated with a lion and resulted in offspring recently. It can be pretty smudgy at times.

BBC News - Siberian zoo breeds the world's first Liliger
Yes, it is definitely smudgy. To complicate matters more, not all species are defined as species based on the idea of reproductive isolation. I actually think relatively few species are actually based on sexual isolation. After all, you can't really do extensive mating experiments with everything you come across. Instead, species were based on morphological differences. Nowadays, so many species are based on DNA comparisons.

When you get down to bacteria and the like who are capable of horizontal gene transfer and can even be capable of basically picking up DNA from the environment, the reproductive isolation idea becomes even more tricky.

I actually doubt that there is one species definition that will be practical across all of life.

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In order to properly reply to the topic, I can add that I agree with you, Tuna. The idea that I am only temporary is comforting to me. I'm not looking forward to how my life will end, but at least there's nothing worrying about the conscious "me" not existing any more. In such a scenario, it's not like I'll miss or want or regret anything anyways.

I will pass on chromosomes to my kids if I have some and so part of me can live on that way and that's good enough for me.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:56 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Usually I'm completely fine with ceasing to exist.

However there are occasions when I can't sleep and that realisation can hit me like a truck.

If I could snap my fingers and believe (know) I would continue on, I would.
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I take comfort in the fact that I am still alive, and that I don't really understand what is going on around me, it gives me the obligation to accept the chaos of life on this planet and that is all I need to know. I don't associate myself with atheism or religion.
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I take comfort in the fact that I am still alive, and that I don't really understand what is going on around me, it gives me the obligation to accept the chaos of life on this planet and that is all I need to know. I don't associate myself with atheism or religion.
You sound just like the person on your avatar would, I imagine
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You sound just like the person on your avatar would, I imagine
Sound Kiiid!

I will take that as a plimentcom!
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Sound Kiiid!

I will take that as a plimentcom!
Sorry, I didn't get any of that. I'm not Irish and even not a native English speaker

Oh, I get plimentcom
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