Children killed in Connecticut school shooting (likely 27 dead,including 18 children)

90'sMusicKid · 12-25-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

See gun accessibility relies on the notion that the average person is responsible and will take appropriate precautions. but as we've learned, when that's not the case the results can be disastrous as with the case of Sandy Hook

Not only was sandy hook a "gun free zone", but CT has SOME of the strictest gun laws in the country.

Gun control relies on the notion that criminals will obey the law. If gun control advocates were capable of logical thinking, you'd all realize that "criminal" sprouts from the word "crime". AKA, people who don't obey the law.

wiggums · 12-25-2012, 10:35 AM

If gun control laws could control guns, then drug control laws would control drugs.

..... Yeeeaaaahhhhhh.....

PoorOldPo · 12-25-2012, 10:42 AM

No one really gets shot in Ireland. You get the odd stabbing every once and a while though. My dad has a shotgun, and knows how to use it, but that is because he is from a farming backround, I also sort of know how to use it, although I doubt I will ever have to. There is definitely something wrong with America right now, and I have heard both arguments in relation to the gun issue, I honestly don't know what would be better.It is going to get much worse before it gets better I'm afraid.

midnight rain · 12-25-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 90'sMusicKid

Not only was sandy hook a "gun free zone", but CT has SOME of the strictest gun laws in the country.

Gun control relies on the notion that criminals will obey the law. If gun control advocates were capable of logical thinking, you'd all realize that "criminal" sprouts from the word "crime". AKA, people who don't obey the law.

That has nothing to do with what I said in the post you quoted.

midnight rain · 12-25-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 90'sMusicKid

Ah yes, because no thoughtless deaths ever happened before firearms were invented.

Are you actually going to make arguments in the topic or are you going to use hyperbole to mock other people's arguments? You should become a politician when you graduate high school.

90'sMusicKid · 12-25-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Are you actually going to make arguments in the topic or are you going to use hyperbole to mock other people's arguments? You should become a politician when you graduate high school.

Lol..I'm well past the point of being in high school. I just got out of the Army this June. (yes, I was only in for a pathetic little year)

Im using perfectly reasonable logic for this argument.

90'sMusicKid · 12-25-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Are you actually going to make arguments in the topic or are you going to use hyperbole to mock other people's arguments? You should become a politician when you graduate high school.

I was simply arguing that the opposite of gun accessibility would be just as disastrous to the American public. It was a perfectly reasonable argument. I probably should have explained myself a bit better.

Paedantic Basterd · 12-25-2012, 03:18 PM

Actually, that was an argumentative fallacy. Slippery slope reasoning makes for a poor debate.

90'sMusicKid · 12-25-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Actually, that was an argumentative fallacy. Slippery slope reasoning makes for a poor debate.

Were the facts I argued not correct? I agree the argument I made had less relevance to the post I quoted than it should have, but the statements I made were all factual and logical.

hip hop bunny hop · 12-25-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo

No one really gets shot in Ireland. You get the odd stabbing every once and a while though. My dad has a shotgun, and knows how to use it, but that is because he is from a farming backround, I also sort of know how to use it, although I doubt I will ever have to. There is definitely something wrong with America right now, and I have heard both arguments in relation to the gun issue, I honestly don't know what would be better.It is going to get much worse before it gets better I'm afraid.

School shootings & civilian-on-civilian massacres are nothing new in this country.

The U.S. will have higher rates of violence. Why? Because the majority of people in this country are descended from immigrants, meaning they've a higher tendency towards risky behavior than the population of the country they left behind. This has rather obvious implications on the prevalence of violence.

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PoorOldPo Blue Pill Oww Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Luimneach, Eire Posts: 1,107	No one really gets shot in Ireland. You get the odd stabbing every once and a while though. My dad has a shotgun, and knows how to use it, but that is because he is from a farming backround, I also sort of know how to use it, although I doubt I will ever have to. There is definitely something wrong with America right now, and I have heard both arguments in relation to the gun issue, I honestly don't know what would be better.It is going to get much worse before it gets better I'm afraid. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/hennas.lullaby/

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Actually, that was an argumentative fallacy. Slippery slope reasoning makes for a poor debate.