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Old 01-11-2013, 02:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I definitely got the sense when I was in London that if I fell down of a heart attack, people would just step over me. People just kind of seemed to go about their business in their own way and only ever interacted with people when they absolutely had to.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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That was a great post.
yeah it sounds like where i live except 10x worse people shoot each other up on some parts of town or send people after you to do the dirty work.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Generally speaking, within Britain Londoners are seen as a bit of an anomaly. There's a peculiar insularity about the area that leads to a few common (Not universal, but certainly common) traits and assumptions.

Most particularly, because London is so large, but so dense towards the center, Londoners in my experience can lack certain perspectives. The most obvious example is that while someone from Manchester or Sheffield would never commonly ring a company up and blindly assume they're speaking to someone local, who knows the area. Londoners will do that a lot. I'll get a phone call from a London area at work and people will ask me to give them directions to very specific places in London, referencing landmarks and street names immediately, before I even get a chance to tell them I've no idea where they're talking from, or indeed about. People from local towns and such will also define their location by a distance from London, or by their proximity to a side of London.

I've also had friends who've lived in London for extended periods tell me that in London the attitude that they've ended up having to take towards things like walking along a busy street, is to practically consider other people dangerous. Not make eye contact, to withdraw into your personal bubble as much as possible to avoid confrontation or interaction with other people. Now obviously I don't think any big city is really going to make you feel welcome and befriended on the street, but London was described to me as peculiarly so.

I'm sure there are other aspects of London that are bizarre too. Its simply so much bigger than anywhere else in the UK that it kind of makes its own set of social rules that don't apply anywhere else.
Being a Londoner, we are the most unfriendly people in the UK and sure we do see London as the be all and end all of the UK and I guess the social rules that you're referring to are very much in evidence compared to the rest of the UK. It's one of the biggest melting pots of the world, so it's going to have its own set of rules. There are also subtle differences as well, for people from different parts of London even down to how they talk and how the people from different parts of London perceive their city. The lack of interaction I'd agree with, right down to hardly ever speaking to your neighbours.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I definitely got the sense when I was in London that if I fell down of a heart attack, people would just step over me. People just kind of seemed to go about their business in their own way and only ever interacted with people when they absolutely had to.
We in the UK, see New York like this.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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One of the traits I have noticed in Londoners (might as well seeing as that's what we're discussing), is their lack of desire to explore outside of their home city. Now obviously this won't apply to all Londoners and London is a great place, but there does seem to be the opinion with Londoners that London = everything and anywhere outside of London in the UK = farms and coal miners (crude way to put it.)

The women I have met always seem to be impeccably groomed but scared to have fun for fear of breaking a nail. I have spent a lot of time in Manchester and other places up north and in comparison the people are much warmer (encountered a few Liam Gallagher-esque Mancs actually but generally they are nice people.)

EDIT - Just as I posted this, US already confirmed what I said.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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One of the traits I have noticed in Londoners (might as well seeing as that's what we're discussing), is their lack of desire to explore outside of their home city. Now obviously this won't apply to all Londoners and London is a great place, but there does seem to be the opinion with Londoners that London = everything and anywhere outside of London in the UK = farms and coal miners (crude way to put it.)

The women I have met always seem to be impeccably groomed but scared to have fun for fear of breaking a nail. I have spent a lot of time in Manchester and other places up north and in comparison the people are much warmer (encountered a few Liam Gallagher-esque Mancs actually but generally they are nice people.)
As far as I'm concerned, anything north of Luton is friggin up north and I have no desire to get all warm and cozy with northerners either.

Don't much care for rural folk either, with their farmyard accents and strange ways.

Greetings from London.
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As far as I'm concerned, anything north of Luton is a friggin up north and I have no desire to get all warm and cozy with northerners either.

Don't much care for rural folk either, with their farmyard accents and strange ways.

Greetings from London.

The oop north and daahn saath divide in action folks.
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The oop north and daahn saath divide in action folks.
So which delightful northern town are you from?
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As far as I'm concerned, anything north of Luton is a friggin up north
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