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Arya Stark 08-04-2013 04:49 PM

Why would you need to know the gender of someone who was unconscious

Sansa Stark 08-04-2013 04:50 PM

****ing right? Why would you even think about that?

Burning Down 08-04-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Arya Stark (Post 1353190)
Why would you need to know the gender of someone who was unconscious

Someone said that? What? I haven't read the last few posts. That's ridiculous - you should make sure the person is okay FFS.

Sansa Stark 08-04-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1353194)
Someone said that? What? I haven't read the last few posts. That's ridiculous - you should make sure the person is okay FFS.

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1353167)
That's your opinion, I guess.

By the way, how would you tell the gender of a dog or a salmon? Or someone who was unconscious?

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Arya Stark 08-04-2013 04:53 PM

Creepy.

And also I don't think it's really deraling a thread if a conversation opens up to different topics. It's how conversations happen in real life.

Burning Down 08-04-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1353195)
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Well that was unexpected.

Sansa Stark 08-04-2013 04:58 PM

Yeah periods are ****ty when they're unexpected, but at least i'm not pregnant right?

Guybrush 08-04-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1353189)
Cry more white cishet male tears pls
it is relevant to the thread because esp of what hhbh is talking about, forcing our gender ideas onto the East.

Uhm, HHBH is basically saying that because there are real biological differences between the sexes, we should not criticize their "gender inequality", f.ex their horrendously unjust-to-women rape laws.

Sansa or Hermione or whatever you wanna be called these days, there's a reason your posts here annoy me more than they normally would. Here, I've made a thread in support of Marte who was raped and subsequently jailed in Dubais. She has since been released, no doubt in part due to the shitstorm that was created online. This thread added to that shitstorm by being critical and encouraging the people here to do something to show support. Most of those who responded here have done something to help Marte out of the predicament she found herself in and should be proud of that.

But what is your contribution to this? You've only tried to work against Marte's cause by arguing that we have no right to criticize their right to further victimize rape victims. You've derailed and sabotaged the discussion and support here by accusing people of being racist, a claim which only has basis in your vast ignorance as you don't know the real meaning of the word. You've taken what could've been a pure effort, a community doing theirs to help out someone in need, and shit all over it with your abrasive manners and half-assed, bored, ignorant logic and trolling. Every post you've made in here is somehow offensive and as such, it really helps corrupt the whole effort. I mentioned earlier that I thought about sending Marte the link to this thread as I thought it would lend her some moral support, but then you and HHBH happened to it. I doubt she'd enjoy reading your defense of the people who jailed her and your arguments about why we should just keep our mouths shut and not give a crap. Good going, hope you're proud of that.

So congratulations on taking something good and staining it with your bad personality. Since this discussion is already corrupted to the point of no real recovery, I guess you can feel free to continue to argue what hypocrites we are when we discuss how rape victims shouldn't be jailed for the crimes against them. You can do your gender identity schtick. If this was my forum with my rules, I would say either start making sense or get the fuck out of my thread.

But I can't stop you from being an idiot all over this, so again, congratulations to you.

Sansa Stark 08-04-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1353207)
Uhm, HHBH is basically saying that because there are real biological differences between the sexes, we should not criticize their "gender inequality", f.ex their horrendously unjust-to-women rape laws.

Sansa or Hermione or whatever you wanna be called these days, there's a reason your posts here annoy me more than they normally would. Here, I've made a thread in support of Marte who was raped and subsequently jailed in Dubais. She has since been released, no doubt in part due to the shitstorm that was created online. This thread added to that shitstorm by being critical and encouraging the people here to do something to show support. Most of those who responded here have done something to help Marte out of the predicament she found herself in and should be proud of that.

But what is your contribution to this? You've only tried to work against Marte's cause by arguing that we have no right to criticize their right to further victimize rape victims. You've derailed and sabotaged the discussion and support here by accusing people of being racist, a claim which only has basis in your vast ignorance as you don't know the real meaning of the word. You've taken what could've been a pure effort, a community doing theirs to help out someone in need, and shit all over it with your abrasive manners and half-assed, bored, ignorant logic and trolling. Every post you've made in here is somehow offensive and as such, it really helps corrupt the whole effort. I mentioned earlier that I thought about sending Marte the link to this thread as I thought it would lend her some moral support, but then you and HHBH happened to it. I doubt she'd enjoy reading your defense of the people who jailed her and your arguments about why we should just keep our mouths shut and not give a crap. Good going, hope you're proud of that.

So congratulations on taking something good and staining it with your bad personality. Since this discussion is already corrupted to the point of no real recovery, I guess you can feel free to continue to argue what hypocrites we are when we discuss how rape victims shouldn't be jailed for the crimes against them. You can do your gender identity schtick. If this was my forum with my rules, I would say either start making sense or get the fuck out of my thread.

But I can't stop you from being an idiot all over this, so again, congratulations to you.

listen to yourself, you apparently are totally anti rape but think it's okay to assault someone to find out their gender? So tell me, how exactly are you contributing when you say **** like that as if it is your God given right to knowing someone's gender.that is just gross.congrats on being a perpetrator of rape culture.

And secondly I am not working against her case. I'm just a gay on the internet and you are just whining now.

Guybrush 08-04-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1353210)
listen to yourself, you apparently are totally anti rape but think it's okay to assault someone to find out their gender? So tell me, how exactly are you contributing when you say **** like that as if it is your God given right to knowing someone's gender.that is just gross

And secondly I am not working against her case. I'm just a gay on the internet and you are just whining now.

I never wrote that I think it's alright to assault anyone, but thanks for the display of obvious trolling.

Even if working against her case was not your intention, contributing to ruining this nice gesture and effort is basically what you've accomplished.

Sansa Stark 08-04-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1353212)
I never wrote that I think it's alright to assault anyone, but thanks for the display of obvious trolling.

Even if working against her case was not your intention, contributing to ruining this nice gesture and effort is basically what you've accomplished.

How come calling out your bull**** is always called trolling? That's funny.

What do you want, tore? Do you want a pat on the back for meeting the basic fucking standards of a human being?! Oh look at you, how progressive and compassionate you are!

Sorry, nope, I dont give a fuck about your hurt feelings when you are one person and your racism affects lots of people.

Scarlett O'Hara 08-04-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1353207)
Uhm, HHBH is basically saying that because there are real biological differences between the sexes, we should not criticize their "gender inequality", f.ex their horrendously unjust-to-women rape laws.

Sansa or Hermione or whatever you wanna be called these days, there's a reason your posts here annoy me more than they normally would. Here, I've made a thread in support of Marte who was raped and subsequently jailed in Dubais. She has since been released, no doubt in part due to the shitstorm that was created online. This thread added to that shitstorm by being critical and encouraging the people here to do something to show support. Most of those who responded here have done something to help Marte out of the predicament she found herself in and should be proud of that.

But what is your contribution to this? You've only tried to work against Marte's cause by arguing that we have no right to criticize their right to further victimize rape victims. You've derailed and sabotaged the discussion and support here by accusing people of being racist, a claim which only has basis in your vast ignorance as you don't know the real meaning of the word. You've taken what could've been a pure effort, a community doing theirs to help out someone in need, and shit all over it with your abrasive manners and half-assed, bored, ignorant logic and trolling. Every post you've made in here is somehow offensive and as such, it really helps corrupt the whole effort. I mentioned earlier that I thought about sending Marte the link to this thread as I thought it would lend her some moral support, but then you and HHBH happened to it. I doubt she'd enjoy reading your defense of the people who jailed her and your arguments about why we should just keep our mouths shut and not give a crap. Good going, hope you're proud of that.

So congratulations on taking something good and staining it with your bad personality. Since this discussion is already corrupted to the point of no real recovery, I guess you can feel free to continue to argue what hypocrites we are when we discuss how rape victims shouldn't be jailed for the crimes against them. You can do your gender identity schtick. If this was my forum with my rules, I would say either start making sense or get the fuck out of my thread.

But I can't stop you from being an idiot all over this, so again, congratulations to you.

:clap::clap:

Well said Tore. I got accused of being racist as well which is ridiculous.

Guybrush 08-04-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1353216)
Sorry, nope, I dont give a fuck about your hurt feelings when you are one person and your racism affects lots of people.

I never wrote you should care about me or my hurt feelings. Didn't you read my post? I think you should give a fuck about being a decent human being and not take a dump on people's efforts to help out others in need. I think you should give a fuck about being ignorant, trolly and constantly abrasive. How you're not permbanned yet for your trolling and frequent attacks on other members here is a mystery to me.

In this thread, you've manage to claim that I argue that it's okay to assault people and that I am a racist. Here's a challenge then; quote to me the bit where I write that I think assault is okay and the bit(s) where I am being racist.

Sansa Stark 08-04-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1353240)
I never wrote you should care about me or my hurt feelings. Didn't you read my post? I think you should give a fuck about being a decent human being and not take a dump on people's efforts to help out others in need. I think you should give a fuck about being ignorant, trolly and constantly abrasive. How you're not permbanned yet for your trolling and frequent attacks on other members here is a mystery to me.

In this thread, you've manage to claim that I argue that it's okay to assault people and that I am a racist. Here's a challenge then;quote to me the bit where I write that I think assault is okay and the bit(s) where I am being racist.


Lol how are you helping her by making a thread on the internet? You are taking this way too seriously and if you can't take criticism I suggest you unplug your internet. Also, attacks? I called you racist, you write a detailed personality analysis.

Yeah, bye.

Guybrush 08-04-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark (Post 1353242)
how are you helping her by making a thread on the internet?

I posted suggestions to things members could do like writing emails or signing an online petition. But also, I think that Musicbanter having such a high google ranking, I think that makes it likely that Marte herself will check in on this thread. It might show up if she googles her own case. As I wrote earlier, I also dabbled with the idea of sending her a link as I once thought it could lend her some moral support.

Thanks again to all who contributed to this thread in a positive way :) Could we lock this up thread up now?

Janszoon 08-04-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1353307)
I posted suggestions to things members could do like writing emails or signing an online petition. But also, I think that Musicbanter having such a high google ranking, I think that makes it likely that Marte herself will check in on this thread. It might show up if she googles her own case. As I wrote earlier, I also dabbled with the idea of sending her a link as I once thought it could lend her some moral support.

Thanks again to all who contributed to this thread in a positive way :) Could we lock this up thread up now?

Sure thing.

Scarlett O'Hara 08-04-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1353307)
I posted suggestions to things members could do like writing emails or signing an online petition. But also, I think that Musicbanter having such a high google ranking, I think that makes it likely that Marte herself will check in on this thread. It might show up if she googles her own case. As I wrote earlier, I also dabbled with the idea of sending her a link as I once thought it could lend her some moral support.

Thanks again to all who contributed to this thread in a positive way :) Could we lock this up thread up now?

Of course! Let me know if you want it reopened at a later date.


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