Syria

Xaidoz · 09-13-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

As much as the US gets called the world's police and yadda yadda yadda. The American public as even evidenced in this thread is tired of the US getting involved in other countries business especially while we still have two conflicts still ongoing. That's one of the main reasons why the US hasn't gotten involved in it until chemical attacks were done.

If they were tired, or if Obama was tired then he wouldnt announce plans to attack in Syria, would he? Im aware that there is no solution that would completely solve everything regarding the civil war in Syria, but there might be certain things that could be done by the US to reduce the violence or something. Its obvious that the US are being careful with what they do about this, and it requires time to think and plan things.

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

Putin is so full of it.

"I'm not protecting Assad, I'm protecting international law. International law states you can only attack by decision of the Security Council, which won't happen cause I'll use Russia's veto power to block any attempt to do so."
The problem is we can't fix the civil war with bombs. I don't think it would reduce the causalities nor make you any safer to do so.

I know that it wouldnt fix anything. The planned US attack on Syria appears to be more like a response to the use of chemical weapons than an attempt to solve or "fix" anything regarding the civil war there, and obviously it wont solve it. We also cant tell what exactly the result would be in the aftermath of a US attack.

djchameleon · 09-13-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Xaidoz

If they were tired, or if Obama was tired then he wouldnt announce plans to attack in Syria, would he? t..

The only reason he wanted to do the strikes is because of the chemical weapons.

Burning Down · 09-13-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/op...yria.html?_r=0

My International Relations prof is making us deconstruct and analyze this for Monday's class. I don't even know where to begin *sigh*

The Batlord · 09-17-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Xaidoz

Since I live in Israel, and I am relatively close to Syria where the civil war is ongoing, the whole thing truly concerns me. I was even scared it would spread to here, but I soon realized thats not gonna happen.....

Like most people(unless you are sadist) it is sickening for me to see the videos and photos of people being killed in various methods during the civil war over there. There is an urgent need for American interference over there and the news Ive heard lately about Obama considering to attack there soon, and then saying he's gonna wait instead afterwards.....I gotta admit that this cant wait. He should have ordered an attack long before even the chemical attacks in August occurred, since from what Ive heard.....they have already used chemical weapons in the civil war even before August 21.

Besides that, I have heard in the news that rockets were launched towards the northern part of Israel, but since I live in the central part it cannot reach the area that I live in.

If this comes off as harsh then I'm sorry, but this whole thing pisses me off. I'm not mad at you, I'm just mad about the situation.

Why should we intervene? I can't help but suspect that your reason for wanting us to go in is because you're from Israel. I can appreciate that if it's true, but we're not Israel and Syria is none of our business. I'm just as sick of us constantly supporting Israel as I am us invading middle eastern countries. Israel is more than capable of defending themselves and don't need us to keep holding their hand.

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Originally Posted by Xaidoz

If they were tired, or if Obama was tired then he wouldnt announce plans to attack in Syria, would he?

The majority of Americans aren't behind Obama on this. So far as I can see the only reason he wants to go in is because he opened his mouth about some arbitrary "red line" and doesn't want to look weak when it's been crossed and/or Israel.

djchameleon · 09-17-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

The majority of Americans aren't behind Obama on this. So far as I can see the only reason he wants to go in is because he opened his mouth about some arbitrary "red line" and doesn't want to look weak when it's been crossed and/or Israel.

I don't think he cares about looking weak or else he would have just done the strikes without going to Congress first.

He also wouldn't agree to the current Syria agreement about turning over the chemical weapons.

All the republicans are saying that he's the weakest president to ever hold the job. They got war/violence blue balls, they just wanted the US to blow up shit.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 09-17-2013, 05:18 PM

dont they have until next yr to turn in the weapons? lol it just makes no sense to me. either disarm them or dont, why wait??

The Batlord · 09-17-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I don't think he cares about looking weak or else he would have just done the strikes without going to Congress first.

So you think he's sincere about this being humanitarian?

djchameleon · 09-17-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So you think he's sincere about this being humanitarian?

yes, why wouldn't he? Also it's more about the policy set by the rest of the world that chemical weapons is crossing the line. It's not just about the fact that people are dying.

The Batlord · 09-18-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

yes, why wouldn't he? Also it's more about the policy set by the rest of the world that chemical weapons is crossing the line. It's not just about the fact that people are dying.

Three reasons:

1. Because he's a politician.

2. Because he's a politician.

3. And because he's a scum-sucking politician just like all the rest of them.

Sequoioideae · 09-18-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Xaidoz

Since I live in Israel, and I am relatively close to Syria where the civil war is ongoing, the whole thing truly concerns me. I was even scared it would spread to here, but I soon realized thats not gonna happen.....

Like most people(unless you are sadist) it is sickening for me to see the videos and photos of people being killed in various methods during the civil war over there. There is an urgent need for American interference over there and the news Ive heard lately about Obama considering to attack there soon, and then saying he's gonna wait instead afterwards.....I gotta admit that this cant wait. He should have ordered an attack long before even the chemical attacks in August occurred, since from what Ive heard.....they have already used chemical weapons in the civil war even before August 21.

Besides that, I have heard in the news that rockets were launched towards the northern part of Israel, but since I live in the central part it cannot reach the area that I live in.

It's not that simple. The US isn't exactly the world police, nor should it be.

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~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	dont they have until next yr to turn in the weapons? lol it just makes no sense to me. either disarm them or dont, why wait??