Carpe Mortem

I think this entire argument is trivial, as classism and racism is dependent on where you live. There's always gonna be someone somewhere that doesn't like you for practically no reason.

Although I gotta point out something hilarious.... I've worked with a number of Africans, black Africans, and they hate African Americans.

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Soulflower

This is what you said:

I thought this was offensive because I took this as you don't care about racism because you do not experience it and it is not a problem for you. Your last statement was outrageously ignorant.

Are you honestly mocking the Jim Crow Era???? Really??? You think that is funny?

Would you have liked it if your grandparents could not eat at a certain restaurant or was terrorized in their own neighborhoods because of the color of their skin?

If you think there are more important issues to worry about, fine but you dont have to be disrespectful and insensitive to people who do care about this issue and have experienced it.


This is EXACTLY why I made the comments I made earlier and I will just leave it at that.

Carpe Mortem

You're right, I am being pretty disrespectful. But I can't help but to mock it, I know too many minority-belonging people who focus their intellect on more worldly concerns than to take this one seriously.

Also my great grandpa was a prisoner at Auschwitz, so.... yeah. Best not bring up times that don't concern us alive in the modern world.

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Soulflower

You can't help but mock people who were raped, lynched, hung, and beaten?

You think it is "funny" that millions of innocent people were murdered because of the color of their skin?

FRED HALE SR.

I've seen this thread before. It doesn't end well.

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Cuthbert

Thought the same.

butthead aka 216

Realtalk you need to start recognizin that other races than african americans have been oppressed. Maybe it was before the jim crow era but in some cases only several generations ago.


The government also has a lot of ways they try to help blacks which ironically bteeds its own racism

Tristesse

You are not just talking about African american women because you keep mentioning things that white people will never "feel" or never "understand what it feels like". That means you are making statements and assumptions about white people as well, and not just talking about african americans. You are putting ignorant opinions across as fact, as if you know how white women feel about beauty and you know that white men in hoodies are never worried about seen as 'thugs'. I can't comprehend how you can not see that your stereotypes and assumptions of white people make you as bad as people who stereotype african americans. Frankly, to quote you, I find it "outrageously offensive".

"Western culture glorifies average looking white women as beautiful" ?!

Yes, of course I am saying that this is not true, where the hell did you get that idea from. You think that western people don't think any dark skinned african american women are beautiful? And that most white women are seen as beautiful? That is just absurd. Everyone knows that the media can't be trusted to portray the general view of beauty (as they seemed to encourage anorexia a few years ago in their portrayal of beautiful women) but these media sources are not representative of the western view. I don't walk down the street thinking how all the white women I pass are beautiful while thinking otherwise of all the black women, and neither do many other people.

Your views are close minded and offensive. I hope you don't mind me pointing out your stereotypical views that reflect/symbolise your prejudicial attitudes.

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Soulflower

I think your rationalization and the way you are interpreting my opinion is way off.

There is nothing about anything I said that suggests I am assuming what it is like to be white. I am just arguing that white people will never know what it is like to experience the issues and problems minorities experience AND they won't

At this point I really could care less how you interpret that because I think you are the one being close minded and offensive because you are not trying to be empathetic to the point I am trying to make. I continually speak from my own experiences and the experiences of African American but the only thing you seem to process from my posts is that I am trying to assume what it is like to be white. That is sad because you are only looking at my posts from your own point of view and interpreting what you want from it.





These are not "ignorant" opinions.

Have you ever taken Social Psychology, Micro aggression or Implicit/Explicit Racism? I study these types of issues and research supports that these issues commonly occur more within the minority community than Caucasian.

Once again, I am not speaking for white people when I mentioned them in my post. I was clearly only speaking on the experiences of African American and just arguing that White people will never know what it feels like to go through those experiences because they are "privileged"

That in no way suggests I am trying to analyze what it is like to be white when I am clearly only speaking of the experiences of African Americans.

Why is it so hard for you to mentally process that? Are you so close minded that you can not process that?




I am pointing out negative stereotypes that are commonly associated with being an African American or a minority that white people do not have to worry about.

So why are you insisting these are my "own" assumptions when these are well establish stereotypes that are culturally embedded in our society?


If anyone is being offensive, it is you because you are acting as if these stereotypes do not exist and that white people experiences the same issues with racism/discrimination as African American and they do not.

I find it down right hilarious you find my post offensive but did not call out the poster who was mocking slavery and African Americans who experience racism but you find so much wrong with my post.....



Why are you taking bits and pieces of my post and interpreting the way you want to. You are taking my statements out of context when you do that. You keep mentioning this statement but did you actually read the entire paragraph?




You just made a bunch of contradictions in this post.

If you argue that the media can not be trusted and that they control the general view of beauty why do you have a problem with me mentioning that the media promotes Western Ideals of beauty? That is pretty much the same thing. I am sorry but the media promotes and reinforces the Western principles of beauty which primarily favors Caucasian or Minority Women who appear Caucasian or have Caucasian features. This has been going on since the beginning of time. These are not my personal "assumptions". The media IS a representation of the Western view since we live in a Western society that is heavily dominated by the mass majority...










YOU might not think that but it still does not change that that is a stereotype that the media promotes as far as beauty goes.



I think your views are ignorant, close minded and offensive. I find some of the members here offensive when it comes down to this issue and I am not sure if it has to do with their race or background but it is troubling that most here are insensitive and oblivious about social issues that affect other races besides their own.

Sansa Stark