ebola

Unknown Soldier · 10-16-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

you can get ebola from touch
bathroom door handles could transmit it

Luckily I don't share bathroom door handles with too many people.

I guess this also means sink taps etc too.

Pet_Sounds · 10-16-2014, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

Ebola is only contagious if the person infected is showing the symptoms (in contagious state). If they are infected but not in the "contagious state" they can not transmit it. Also, it is only transmitted through bodily fluids, open wounds etc. It is not an air bourne disease. The nurse is actually being sent to a hospital in Maryland. I live in Maryland so it will probably be very chaotic around here when she comes some time tonight.

It is important for people to become educated on it instead of relying on the sensational media that seems to only want to scare people. It is a deadly disease if it goes without treatment (but there is treatment for it in America) and there are ways that people can prevent transmission and the media is sensationalizing the way it can be transmitted.

I think that this new epidemic is heartbreaking and I think more people should care. A lot of times people never think things will happen to them or their loved ones but when something devastating does happen all of a sudden it matters to them. It shouldn't have to take that for people to care. I think that is what is wrong with this world now. We need to start caring and loving one another. I think we should try to help the people in Africa if we can. We have the medicine so why not help them since this is beginning to be a problem in America anyway?

This is the best post in this thread and one of your personal finest.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-17-2014, 11:46 PM

Personally, the attitude of "I don't care about this and don't feel threatened by it because it hasn't reached where I live yet, so I am going to treat it like no big deal and joke about it..."

...that sort of attitude, about pretty much anything, has always really rubbed me the wrong way. It doesn't affect me, so I don't care...hm, sort of a ****ty thing to think about or say of those that are affected by it. I'm serious. I have heard coworkers joke about how people are bleeding out all over the world, and laughing about it because here in the USA, we're safer and less likely to be affected by it because we're more sanitary. That's as a horrible thing to think, or say of those suffering from Ebola.

To me, this is tragic. Third world countries suffer through so much ****, and it isn't entirely the fault of those that live there either. For those that are much more fortunate, that have a roof over their head, plentiful food, jobs, loving friends and family...we take it all for granted and commonly look down on people like those in third world countries, and some of us even think we're justified to treat those in third world countries like garbage. It's pathetic.

You think the US government gives a **** people are dying over there from Ebola? Hell no, they don't. All they've ever cared about is looking good to the rest of the world. The relief that is sent to help, is out of pity, there's no good well or good intentions there...just a means to flaunt how caring they are, when in fact, they couldn't care less.

Cancer for instance. That makes billions, maybe trillions a year. You really think they've been looking or researching a cure and plan to distribute it? If they gave the public a cure, they're kissing billions goodbye. And the US government loves money, so like hell they'll make it available to any of us. And if they did. Only the rich could afford it.

These topics piss me off because I'm emotional about it, and how people treat it like it's a joke, and they think they're justified in the light heart approach to it, jokes and whatnot.

Well, carry on, everyone.

Neapolitan · 10-18-2014, 12:33 AM

On the radio, I heard it's possible that Ebola could be air borne transmitted virus. Or even possibly mutate into one. So I search for it online, and I found two articles:

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(CNN) -- Today, the Ebola virus spreads only through direct contact with bodily fluids, such as blood and vomit. But some of the nation's top infectious disease experts worry that this deadly virus could mutate and be transmitted just by a cough or a sneeze. Ebola airborne: A nightmare that could happen - CNN.com

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Airborne and droplet transmission both technically travel through the air to infect others; the difference lies in the size of the infective particles. Smaller droplets persist in the air longer and are able to travel farther- these droplets are truly “airborne.” Larger droplets can neither travel as far nor persist for very long. Fomites are inanimate objects that can transmit disease if they are contaminated with infectious agents. In this study, a monkey’s cage could have been contaminated when workers were cleaning a nearby pig cage. If the monkey touched the contaminated cage surface and then its mouth or eyes, it could have been infected. - See more at: From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne | HealthMap

RoxyRollah · 10-18-2014, 03:40 AM

fear monger ^

The Batlord · 10-18-2014, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

Personally, the attitude of "I don't care about this and don't feel threatened by it because it hasn't reached where I live yet, so I am going to treat it like no big deal and joke about it..."

...that sort of attitude, about pretty much anything, has always really rubbed me the wrong way. It doesn't affect me, so I don't care...hm, sort of a ****ty thing to think about or say of those that are affected by it. I'm serious. I have heard coworkers joke about how people are bleeding out all over the world, and laughing about it because here in the USA, we're safer and less likely to be affected by it because we're more sanitary. That's as a horrible thing to think, or say of those suffering from Ebola.

To me, this is tragic. Third world countries suffer through so much ****, and it isn't entirely the fault of those that live there either. For those that are much more fortunate, that have a roof over their head, plentiful food, jobs, loving friends and family...we take it all for granted and commonly look down on people like those in third world countries, and some of us even think we're justified to treat those in third world countries like garbage. It's pathetic.

You think the US government gives a **** people are dying over there from Ebola? Hell no, they don't. All they've ever cared about is looking good to the rest of the world. The relief that is sent to help, is out of pity, there's no good well or good intentions there...just a means to flaunt how caring they are, when in fact, they couldn't care less.

Cancer for instance. That makes billions, maybe trillions a year. You really think they've been looking or researching a cure and plan to distribute it? If they gave the public a cure, they're kissing billions goodbye. And the US government loves money, so like hell they'll make it available to any of us. And if they did. Only the rich could afford it.

These topics piss me off because I'm emotional about it, and how people treat it like it's a joke, and they think they're justified in the light heart approach to it, jokes and whatnot.

Well, carry on, everyone.

I get bombarded by terrible **** on TV every day. Shootings, drug wars, kidnappings, actual wars, serial killers, terrorism, corrupt politicians, genital mutilation, genocide, child soldiers, sex slavery, race riots, religious fundamentalism, and god knows what else. Often time it's sensationalized entertainment, like when a black boy is kidnapped, molested, and dumped somewhere and you never hear about it, while the whole world stops to stare at the TV and eat popcorn when a cute little white girl is taken. After twenty-eight years of tragitainment, I've become desensitized to many of the things happening to the other seven billion people whom I've never met, will never meet, and probably will never be on the same continent as. The world wants me to see all the horrible **** in existence? Well congratulations, I've seen it, and so it really shouldn't come as a shock if my reservoir of empathy is running a bit dry at the moment. Obviously this is terrible, but it's just one more instance in a never-ending series of tragedies assaulting my senses and I have a hard time differentiating between them all at this point.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-18-2014, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I get bombarded by terrible **** on TV every day. Shootings, drug wars, kidnappings, actual wars, serial killers, terrorism, corrupt politicians, genital mutilation, genocide, child soldiers, sex slavery, race riots, religious fundamentalism, and god knows what else. Often time it's sensationalized entertainment, like when a black boy is kidnapped, molested, and dumped somewhere and you never hear about it, while the whole world stops to stare at the TV and eat popcorn when a cute little white girl is taken. After twenty-eight years of tragitainment, I've become desensitized to many of the things happening to the other seven billion people whom I've never met, will never meet, and probably will never be on the same continent as. The world wants me to see all the horrible **** in existence? Well congratulations, I've seen it, and so it really shouldn't come as a shock if my reservoir of empathy is running a bit dry at the moment. Obviously this is terrible, but it's just one more instance in a never-ending series of tragedies assaulting my senses and I have a hard time differentiating between them all at this point.

Batlord, I completely understand why you feel the way that you do, about things like this. We're exposed to it all the time, everywhere. I'm not necessarily knocking you for it either. I am knocking the people that completely treat this as something to laugh at, it's more that than the I don't care attitude at this point, even though that too, bothers me.

You don't need to defend yourself man, I like you, you're a cool dude so far. But I won't keep it to myself when you say stupid **** either, just so we're clear haha. Not that you said anything stupid here, just fyi.

I won't ever meet these people either. There isn't really anything I can do to help them, that eats at me, but what can I do about not being able to do anything for any of those people in third world countries? I don't really have any options. If I had the means, the money, I'd go help in a heart beat. When you've got a selfless heart like mine, or when you're someone like me that has always wanted to help anyone I could, even strangers. It's hard to just become indifferent or desensitized to everything tragic that is thrown in my face, because I care too much. Chasing that perfect world that doesn't exist...

Chula Vista · 10-18-2014, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I get bombarded by terrible **** on TV every day. Shootings, drug wars, kidnappings, actual wars, serial killers, terrorism, corrupt politicians, genital mutilation, genocide, child soldiers, sex slavery, race riots, religious fundamentalism, and god knows what else. Often time it's sensationalized entertainment, like when a black boy is kidnapped, molested, and dumped somewhere and you never hear about it, while the whole world stops to stare at the TV and eat popcorn when a cute little white girl is taken. After twenty-eight years of tragitainment, I've become desensitized to many of the things happening to the other seven billion people whom I've never met, will never meet, and probably will never be on the same continent as. The world wants me to see all the horrible **** in existence? Well congratulations, I've seen it, and so it really shouldn't come as a shock if my reservoir of empathy is running a bit dry at the moment. Obviously this is terrible, but it's just one more instance in a never-ending series of tragedies assaulting my senses and I have a hard time differentiating between them all at this point.

I'm with you. I have to shut it off because if I don't I'll go crazy.

DwnWthVwls · 10-18-2014, 10:35 AM

I'm with Bat. It's not that I don't recognize the seriousness of the situation but there are too many problems in the world and I don't prioritize any of them over another unless they directly effect my life. It's selfish, but I can't make myself think differently that's just how I feel.

Sparky · 10-18-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'm with Bat. It's not that I don't recognize the seriousness of the situation but there are too many problems in the world and I don't prioritize any of them over another unless they directly effect my life. It's selfish, but I can't make myself think differently that's just how I feel.

The airborne thing is pretty scary, but like the article mentions, such a mutation has not occurred before. However, it also mentions that the last two ebola breaks were transmitted via "breathing."

Some speculate that we're nearing the end of the peak and numbers should start going down soon. A lot of conflicting views with this.

There are now more than 800 people being tracked for progression of the ebola virus in the U.S.

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CoNtrivedNiHilism Because I Am, I Can! Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,128	Personally, the attitude of "I don't care about this and don't feel threatened by it because it hasn't reached where I live yet, so I am going to treat it like no big deal and joke about it..." ...that sort of attitude, about pretty much anything, has always really rubbed me the wrong way. It doesn't affect me, so I don't care...hm, sort of a **ty thing to think about or say of those that are affected by it. I'm serious. I have heard coworkers joke about how people are bleeding out all over the world, and laughing about it because here in the USA, we're safer and less likely to be affected by it because we're more sanitary. That's as a horrible thing to think, or say of those suffering from Ebola. To me, this is tragic. Third world countries suffer through so much , and it isn't entirely the fault of those that live there either. For those that are much more fortunate, that have a roof over their head, plentiful food, jobs, loving friends and family...we take it all for granted and commonly look down on people like those in third world countries, and some of us even think we're justified to treat those in third world countries like garbage. It's pathetic. You think the US government gives a ** people are dying over there from Ebola? Hell no, they don't. All they've ever cared about is looking good to the rest of the world. The relief that is sent to help, is out of pity, there's no good well or good intentions there...just a means to flaunt how caring they are, when in fact, they couldn't care less. Cancer for instance. That makes billions, maybe trillions a year. You really think they've been looking or researching a cure and plan to distribute it? If they gave the public a cure, they're kissing billions goodbye. And the US government loves money, so like hell they'll make it available to any of us. And if they did. Only the rich could afford it. These topics piss me off because I'm emotional about it, and how people treat it like it's a joke, and they think they're justified in the light heart approach to it, jokes and whatnot. Well, carry on, everyone.