2016 Presidential Race Thread

Chula Vista · 04-30-2015, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

and you watch the president when he does his state of the union speeches and **** too?

No. Those are boring. The debates can be entertaining. If for nothing else to see when the candidates nail one another real good.

This was pure gold.

The Batlord · 04-30-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Not every single one but definitely the final one. But it depends on who's debating.

I care a lot. I'm inching up on retirement and SS. Gotta make sure no Teabagger gets anywhere near my hard earned money.

So you watch the last one? You ignore almost the entire season and then catch the Superbowl? How informed can you possibly be if that's all you can bring yourself to do? I imagine you get more info from osmosis and news bites than you do from that debate, so you might as well just not watch it.

Chula Vista · 04-30-2015, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So you watch the last one? You ignore almost the entire season and then catch the Superbowl? How informed can you possibly be if that's all you can bring yourself to do? I imagine you get more info from osmosis and news bites than you do from that debate, so you might as well just not watch it.

The last debate is the one that matters in the primaries because only the serious contenders are left on stage.

Republican Party presidential debates, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 04-30-2015, 08:14 PM

i honestly dunno what to think about that obama vs romney clip

i mean yea he made romney sound dumb, but here's my issue

the left generally maintains that the military is too large and that spending cuts to address the deficit should be aimed at the military. they naively assume that the military is just a big racket that is adding nothing to our civilization other than defending us from foreign invaders.

no politician can address the pragmatic reality that we benefit from our military empire by essentially setting the rules of international trade. so having a thorough a robustly funded navy is of vital strategic importance to the united states.

the republicans seem to get this but can't say it cause it sounds bad. i mean it's basically imperialism and people don't like the sound of that but guess what... our prosperity is built on a foundation of imperialism so you can't have your cake and eat it too.

the democrats on the other hand either pretend not to know how american imperialism can be beneficial to american prosperity or they take the moral stance that you've gotta stop that right now. but they can't sell that to the establishment because it's an absurd idea that only a fool who's never properly read a history book would take seriously. they can only peddle it to their grass roots common folk followers who swallow it down like gospel, oblivious to the logic on which policy decisions are actually being made.

so in a way romney is sort of right to point out that the democrats are so eager to cut military spending and that this is unacceptable. he just ends up looking foolish cause he can't say its actually to maintain the empire, he has to pretend like it's just about 'keeping americans safe'

Chula Vista · 04-30-2015, 08:15 PM

All good points

Moss · 04-30-2015, 10:31 PM

Bernie Sander getting in the race will be interesting. He is too out there to possibly win but will make for some interesting debates.

Psy-Fi · 05-01-2015, 03:46 AM

I'd like to see and hear this guy in a debate.

Mercer For President 2008

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 05-01-2015, 05:01 AM

^

i'd like to see him debate this guy

**Frownland** · 05-01-2015, 10:13 AM

^Dude I love the Time Cube guy. You've seen the website right? He actually makes more sense when he's talking than when he's writing.

Chula Vista · 05-01-2015, 11:07 AM

The fat lady sings some more.

David Wildstein Chris Christie ally to plead guilty - CNNPolitics.com

04-30-2015, 08:14 PM	#64 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	i honestly dunno what to think about that obama vs romney clip i mean yea he made romney sound dumb, but here's my issue the left generally maintains that the military is too large and that spending cuts to address the deficit should be aimed at the military. they naively assume that the military is just a big racket that is adding nothing to our civilization other than defending us from foreign invaders. no politician can address the pragmatic reality that we benefit from our military empire by essentially setting the rules of international trade. so having a thorough a robustly funded navy is of vital strategic importance to the united states. the republicans seem to get this but can't say it cause it sounds bad. i mean it's basically imperialism and people don't like the sound of that but guess what... our prosperity is built on a foundation of imperialism so you can't have your cake and eat it too. the democrats on the other hand either pretend not to know how american imperialism can be beneficial to american prosperity or they take the moral stance that you've gotta stop that right now. but they can't sell that to the establishment because it's an absurd idea that only a fool who's never properly read a history book would take seriously. they can only peddle it to their grass roots common folk followers who swallow it down like gospel, oblivious to the logic on which policy decisions are actually being made. so in a way romney is sort of right to point out that the democrats are so eager to cut military spending and that this is unacceptable. he just ends up looking foolish cause he can't say its actually to maintain the empire, he has to pretend like it's just about 'keeping americans safe' Last edited by John Wilkes Booth; 04-30-2015 at 08:20 PM.

04-30-2015, 08:15 PM	#65 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	All good points __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

05-01-2015, 10:13 AM	#69 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	^Dude I love the Time Cube guy. You've seen the website right? He actually makes more sense when he's talking than when he's writing. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-01-2015, 11:07 AM	#70 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	The fat lady sings some more. David Wildstein Chris Christie ally to plead guilty - CNNPolitics.com __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

04-30-2015, 10:31 PM	#66 (permalink)
Moss Scuttle Buttin' Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 972	Bernie Sander getting in the race will be interesting. He is too out there to possibly win but will make for some interesting debates.

05-01-2015, 05:01 AM	#68 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	^ i'd like to see him debate this guy