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Old 06-12-2015, 09:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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yea i was being facetious
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:42 PM   #32 (permalink)
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yea i was being facetious
Yeah, I know, sarcasm. Statistically the ATF probably hits the nail on the head. Experience wise? I've never encountered someone who had acquired a fire arm in that manner.

So what do you propose we do?
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yup it does in which the ATF investigates the "misplaced" firearms. And to be honest, I don't give a **** what the ATF says. Because every criminal I've found with a gun when I ask them where'd you get it I'm told that they stole it. I speak from experience, not statistics.
Bad logic.

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Old 06-12-2015, 09:54 PM   #34 (permalink)
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i have to go to bed... work in a few hours.. but i'm saying basically i think the emphasis should be on trying to make it more difficult for people to possess a weapon that doesn't somehow have their name attached to it... criminal or not. i don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to have to maintain some sort of proof of possession of the weapon for as long as it is in their custody. i don't want to take away the right to own them, i just think we should try harder to manage it better.

i will brainstorm some more tomorrow and post some more **** maybe... for tonight i think i'm done though. appreciate the info though, haven't ever heard of that fbi database before... will have to learn more about how it works to see where improvements could potentially be made
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:57 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i have to go to bed... work in a few hours.. but i'm saying basically i think the emphasis should be on trying to make it more difficult for people to possess a weapon that doesn't somehow have their name attached to it... criminal or not. i don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to have to maintain some sort of proof of possession of the weapon for as long as it is in their custody. i don't want to take away the right to own them, i just think we should try harder to manage it better.

i will brainstorm some more tomorrow and post some more **** maybe... for tonight i think i'm done though. appreciate the info though, haven't ever heard of that fbi database before... will have to learn more about how it works to see where improvements could potentially be made
What about firearms that do not have a serial number (ex. "ancient" firearms) or firearms such as black powder weapons which are not generally considered a modern firearm and thusly don't have to be registered?
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:01 PM   #36 (permalink)
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What about firearms that do not have a serial number (ex. "ancient" firearms) or firearms such as black powder weapons which are not generally considered a modern firearm and thusly don't have to be registered?
I say, let the Bloods and Crips have unregistered muskets. They can line up in formation like Napoleonic soldiers and just unload salvos into each other. Gangsta.
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I say, let the Bloods and Crips have unregistered muskets. They can line up in formation like Napoleonic soldiers and just unload salvos into each other. Gangsta.
I would seriously laugh my ass off at that! They can BARELY hit what they're aiming at with modern weapons (I think sheer volume v. accuracy comes into play here). I can only IMAGINE their efficienty with a weapon that is barely accurate at 50yds.
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What about firearms that do not have a serial number (ex. "ancient" firearms) or firearms such as black powder weapons which are not generally considered a modern firearm and thusly don't have to be registered?
lol... yea not really worried about those tbh. people can keep their unregistered muskets for all i care

the majority of homicides are carried out with (relatively) modern pistols iirc

so that'd be where the main emphasis would be to me
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lol... yea not really worried about those tbh. people can keep their unregistered muskets for all i care

the majority of homicides are carried out with (relatively) modern pistols iirc

so that'd be where the main emphasis would be to me
Okay but a criminal can legally go buy a black powder weapon and then go shot somebody with said weapon and it will kill. I have a .44 BP pistol and .50 cal BP rifle. I go bear hunting with the .50. How hard would it be to turn it on someone and shot them?
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do you realistically see this becoming a big problem?

tbh if this policy forces criminals to revert to ****ing muskets for their gangland crimes then i'd consider it a resounding success
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