donald trump 4 prez

Chula Vista · 06-06-2016, 10:20 AM

Most of my family back east are supporting Trump. But then again, they'd vote for Hitler if he was the GOP candidate. Here's how bad it is back there. The day after Obama was elected to his first term my nephew started a Facebook page titled something along the lines of: "Let's make sure he doesn't get re-elected in 2012".

1. The guy hadn't even been sworn in yet.
2. They had no clue who would oppose him on the GOP ticket.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2016, 10:21 AM

That's, uh, not really that crazy imo. I could see you or almost everyone else here doing the exact same thing with Trump.

Chula Vista · 06-06-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's, uh, not really that crazy imo. I could see you or almost everyone else here doing the exact same thing with Trump.

Nope. If he does win I'm gonna sit back and see how it goes, and hope he proves me wrong for my own sake. Remember I've voted for both Dems and Repubs in the past. Lesser of two evils every election.

Blank. · 06-06-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I don't need proof. It's too stupid to consider.

What do scientists think about religion? - latimes

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According to a survey of members of the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center in May and June this year, a majority of scientists (51%) say they believe in God or a higher power, while 41% say they do not.

Huh, odd.

Well, why is it so many people think it's dumb to believe in god when some of the smartest people in the world believe in him. My aunt and uncle are so anti-religion that it scares me sometimes. Yet they are the dumbest people I know. And I'm not saying not believing in god is a bad thing. But stop pigeonholing a group of people simply because you don't agree with them.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2016, 10:50 AM

I honestly don't think that intelligence is a whole mind thing. We could be intelligent on one subject and unintelligent on another. A genius physicist might not be able to utilize his intelligence for analyzing art films or they may be entirely socially unintelligent. I think that we all have blind spots like that. That's why it's good to be skeptical of yourself above all others because you're the best person at fooling yourself that there is.

Also, people find religion comforting, and it's hard to get them to find anything that might take away that comfort such as lack of evidence, origins and history of their religious texts, etc.

Xurtio · 06-06-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I guess you could say that they never think critically about anything they already know, which doesn't always equate to stupidity.

The thing I always think of in these discussions is that people don't all necessarily come to atheism or agnosticism from a rational perspective. For many, it comes down to feels, belief, and culture. It's really annoying when people play atheism as an intelligence card.

Blank. · 06-06-2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I honestly don't think that intelligence is a whole mind thing. We could be intelligent on one subject and unintelligent on another. A genius physicist might not be able to utilize his intelligence for analyzing art films or they may be entirely socially unintelligent. I think that we all have blind spots like that. That's why it's good to be skeptical of yourself above all others because you're the best person at fooling yourself that there is.

Also, people find religion comforting, and it's hard to get them to find anything that might take away that comfort such as lack of evidence, origins and history of their religious texts, etc.

That's pretty much what I was saying. So many atheists pigeonhole people like me. For what? Cause I believe in a higher power? For every piece of evidence that suggests god exists there is just as much proof that he doesnt.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

For every piece of evidence that suggests god exists

Examples?

Key · 06-06-2016, 11:01 AM

The best way to deal with a person who believes in a higher power with no evidence is think in the back of your kind that they're going to waste their entire life believing in a higher power, only to be disappointed in the end.

Also, another thing I never understood is practicing your religion. Like going to church, etc. If someone truly believes in what they believe, why do they feel it is necessary to go to church every Sunday to prove it. I know people find it comforting to be around other people who share your beliefs, but why does the church have to be involved? It may be an obvious answer, but it's something I always found pointless.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2016, 11:06 AM

I asked my parents about that a while ago, since I know that they already understand the religion back and forth. They said that the main reason that they go is for the community.

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06-06-2016, 10:20 AM	#1831 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Most of my family back east are supporting Trump. But then again, they'd vote for Hitler if he was the GOP candidate. Here's how bad it is back there. The day after Obama was elected to his first term my nephew started a Facebook page titled something along the lines of: "Let's make sure he doesn't get re-elected in 2012". 1. The guy hadn't even been sworn in yet. 2. They had no clue who would oppose him on the GOP ticket. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

06-06-2016, 10:21 AM	#1832 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	That's, uh, not really that crazy imo. I could see you or almost everyone else here doing the exact same thing with Trump. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-06-2016, 10:50 AM	#1835 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I honestly don't think that intelligence is a whole mind thing. We could be intelligent on one subject and unintelligent on another. A genius physicist might not be able to utilize his intelligence for analyzing art films or they may be entirely socially unintelligent. I think that we all have blind spots like that. That's why it's good to be skeptical of yourself above all others because you're the best person at fooling yourself that there is. Also, people find religion comforting, and it's hard to get them to find anything that might take away that comfort such as lack of evidence, origins and history of their religious texts, etc. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-06-2016, 11:06 AM	#1840 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I asked my parents about that a while ago, since I know that they already understand the religion back and forth. They said that the main reason that they go is for the community. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-06-2016, 11:01 AM	#1839 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	The best way to deal with a person who believes in a higher power with no evidence is think in the back of your kind that they're going to waste their entire life believing in a higher power, only to be disappointed in the end. Also, another thing I never understood is practicing your religion. Like going to church, etc. If someone truly believes in what they believe, why do they feel it is necessary to go to church every Sunday to prove it. I know people find it comforting to be around other people who share your beliefs, but why does the church have to be involved? It may be an obvious answer, but it's something I always found pointless.