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**Frownland** · 09-27-2016, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Perception counts for a lot with our allies though.

Bandwagon fallacies are not cool dude.

Key · 09-27-2016, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I think taking clowns seriously is gonna lose your grip on reality a lot sooner, oh master click baiter.

Damn. Good insult.

djchameleon · 09-27-2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You can't count to six? Also LOL at the double standard for Trump. I don't agree with that tactic but come on man take the blinders off a bit.

I didn't actually remember how many he had so I just made that general statement.

Also what double standard are you referring to? Also what tactic? details. Stop being vague.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I don't let Trump's ugliness make Hillary shine. Hillary can be criticized alongside Trump.

I agree with this.

**Frownland** · 09-27-2016, 03:51 PM

The way I read it, it sounded like you think that the tactic of going bankrupt is okay unless Trump does it. That's a double standard.

Terrapin_Station · 09-27-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I agree. However, when you juxtapose that with how he claims to have helped the economy and created jobs, there's a bit of a disconnect since his gains are often only beneficial to him and have come from people losing their jobs.

Well, unless someone's business directly causes the closure of a business that employs more people, adding new venues and functions would create jobs and would put money into the economy.

Terrapin_Station · 09-27-2016, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

The Stern quote rebuts him saying over and over again so vehemently that he was against it.

Yes, Clinton voted for the war. So did 76 of her fellow Senators. 77 out of 100 were convinced via fake intel that Iraq had WMDs.

He said during the debate that he gave a tentative approval of it on Howard Stern. When you listen to that Howard Stern interview, he clearly sounds not at all sure when he says, "Yeah . . . I guess so."

djchameleon · 09-27-2016, 04:18 PM

Nah, I wasn't saying that. I'm just saying that there are successful business men that haven't had to use that strategy.

I'm also stating that I know why it used from time to time.

Terrapin_Station · 09-27-2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Would you rather us start supporting Trump in his actions? I don't necessarily agree with Hillary on what she says, and she told lies during the debate as well. But what it boils down to is who you feel you can believe more.

I wouldn't say that I feel I can believe either any more than the other. It's just that Hillary is a career politician who gave standard, vague, too-abstract, career-politician rhetoric during the debate that tells you that if she gets in, it's 4 more years (at least) of the same ol' same ol'.

**Frownland** · 09-27-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

Well, unless someone's business directly causes the closure of a business that employs more people, adding new venues and functions would create jobs and would put money into the economy.

Well, ja. I was talking about declaring bankruptcy though.

Terrapin_Station · 09-27-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Well, ja. I was talking about declaring bankruptcy though.

Declaring bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean that the business stops functioning or that people lose their jobs. It's often just a financial move one can make in the game under certain conditions that enables financial restructuring and often leads to increased solvency and the creation of even more jobs.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	The way I read it, it sounded like you think that the tactic of going bankrupt is okay unless Trump does it. That's a double standard. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x