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Old 10-11-2016, 12:06 PM   #3541 (permalink)
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The reason why Trump killed Hillary in this debate is because majority of what he said about her was true.
Wrong. Here's just one thing he failed at. This is the transcript of what Clinton said to the Wall Street banks:

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"You just have to sort of figure out how to — getting back to that word, “balance” — how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that’s not just a comment about today. That, I think, has probably been true for all of our history, and if you saw the Spielberg movie, Lincoln, and how he was maneuvering and working to get the 13th Amendment passed, and he called one of my favorite predecessors, Secretary Seward, who had been the governor and senator from New York, ran against Lincoln for president, and he told Seward, I need your help to get this done. And Seward called some of his lobbyist friends who knew how to make a deal, and they just kept going at it."
So she was 100% accurate in how she answered the "public vs. private" question.

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Another way to get there is to do something like play music, play sports, etc. well . . . which is another thing that makes me a bit skeptical about your musical experience, Chula.


This was around 1980. Before AIDS. Lot of sex to be had being a good looking musician in a hard rock band. (And ya, I was hot!) But I never, ever advanced myself on a girl. In that position you don't have to. They come on to you. You're coming off as a very scary guy in this thread TS. Are you registered yet as a possible sex offender?

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Wait, so Chula has actually made the leap in saying Donald Trump actually grabbed her pussy? Like, he just grabbed it? F*ck me.
This woman sued him for it in the 90s. Of course he paid her off so it wouldn't go public but now she's pissed because of the way he denied doing it during Sunday's debate. Don't be so naive Goof.

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Typical Trump support to question someones intelligence based on their own ignorance.
Not surprising that (a) you'd think that I'm a Trump supporter, and (b) you'd conflate knowledge with intelligence.
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Not surprising that (a) you'd think that I'm a Trump supporter, and (b) you'd conflate knowledge with intelligence.
You're not a supporter. You're a defender and/or enabler.
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Not surprising that (a) you'd think that I'm a Trump supporter, and (b) you'd conflate knowledge with intelligence.
I was going to respond.

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You're not a supporter. You're a defender and/or enabler.
But Chula said what I would say.
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Sign at a pro Trump rally on Monday. Guy holding it was interviewed and said he was referring to GOP politicians who were afraid to get behind Trump. Un-****ing-believable. What's even more disturbing is that the women at the rally fully supported his message. It's a disease at this point.

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You're not a supporter. You're a defender and/or enabler.
I'll defend anyone against the ridiculous sorts of SJW-grounded conclusions that people jump to, sure. (Well, and not only SJWish stuff, but those are particularly stupid.)
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No dumbass. I'm a supporter.
And here I thought you were still on the "I don't particularly like her, but she's better than Trump" wagon, even while you were being a Hillary-tattoo-on-your-ass-level supporter in actual fact. Nice to know you've gone even farther off the deep end.
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And here I thought you were still on the "I don't particularly like her, but she's better than Trump" wagon, even while you were being a Hillary-tattoo-on-your-ass-level supporter in actual fact. Nice to know you've gone even farther off the deep end.
It's perspective. In general politics and politicians suck. But every 4 years I jump into the ring and choose a side. I then root for my pick and champion them. Three months from now no-one on this board will be talking about Trump or Clinton. But right now it makes for fun discussion. In hindsight I think Bill Clinton was a really good president. Hopefully in 15 years I'll feel the same way about his wife.


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