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Lucem Ferre 10-29-2016 02:21 PM

Am I really making a choice or is everything I do influenced by outside events that set me on the path of choices that I thought I was making? Because with every decision I make you can trace it back to an event that influenced that decision even when we try to act at random you can find a pattern to our randomness and trace it to something that had influenced that. It's the butterfly effect/chaos theory, if it were possible to change one small thing of our past it might have a great effect on the out come of the future, so with that could you really believe that freewill actually exists or are we just slaves to a cosmic push that set us into motion?

Edit: I you believe in the multiverse theory where there is a universe for every decision ever made then in this universe there is a path of decisions that we have to follow. You could easily say that the concept of freewill was created by the ego of human beings to trick ourselves into believing we have more control than we actually do.

OccultHawk 10-29-2016 02:32 PM

Free will is definitely an illusion. So is the distinction between living and non-living.

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1763377)
Free will is definitely an illusion. So is the distinction between living and non-living.

And in the end it really doesn't matter which button I click, because the path laid out for me has already decided that I think Donald Trump could win this election.

OccultHawk 10-29-2016 02:48 PM

It probably all already happened.

Chula Vista 10-29-2016 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1763375)
Am I really making a choice or is everything I do influenced by outside events that set me on the path of choices that I thought I was making? Because with every decision I make you can trace it back to an event that influenced that decision even when we try to act at random you can find a pattern to our randomness and trace it to something that had influenced that. It's the butterfly effect/chaos theory, if it were possible to change one small thing of our past it might have a great effect on the out come of the future, so with that could you really believe that freewill actually exists or are we just slaves to a cosmic push that set us into motion?

Edit: I you believe in the multiverse theory where there is a universe for every decision ever made then in this universe there is a path of decisions that we have to follow. You could easily say that the concept of freewill was created by the ego of human beings to trick ourselves into believing we have more control than we actually do.



Dude is so off the rails now that all of his heroism on 9/11 is long forgotten.

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2016 04:37 PM

I hate how the phrase "conspiracy theory" has become such a dirty word in politics.

Remember the conspiracy theory of our government infecting young black males with STDs? It turned out to be true. The Tuskegee experiments are much more off the wall than any conspiracy theory laid out about the Clintons and they turned out to be true.

OccultHawk 10-29-2016 04:50 PM

the podcast inquiring minds examined the phenomenon of true events being discarded as false because they seemed preposterous and conspiratorial

The psychologist argued people disinclined to believe in conspiracy theories were just as likely to be hoodwinked as people who take a liking to them

Meaning most people will disregard the truth on the grounds that believing it will associate them with others who believe in it. It's not based on evidence or facts either way, but rather appearances

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1763402)
the podcast inquiring minds examined the phenomenon of true events being discarded as false because they seemed preposterous and conspiratorial

The psychologist argued people disinclined to believe in conspiracy theories were just as likely to be hoodwinked as people who take a liking to them

Meaning most people will disregard the truth on the grounds that believing it will associate them with others who believe in it. It's not based on evidence or facts either way, but rather appearances

What if I carefully pick and choose which conspiracy theory to believe based upon the facts that are laid before me?

OccultHawk 10-29-2016 05:00 PM

If you're truly objective you have very rare critical thinking skills

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1763409)
If you're truly objective you have very rare critical thinking skills

Only to an extent.

Psy-Fi 10-30-2016 09:00 AM


Chula Vista 10-30-2016 12:02 PM

And yet in hindsight Reagan's presidency was a disaster on so many levels - unless you were rich or worked on wall street.

OccultHawk 10-30-2016 12:09 PM

We still may very well end up in a nuclear holocaust as part of the aftermath of that monster's presidency.

Xurtio 10-30-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1763394)
I hate how the phrase "conspiracy theory" has become such a dirty word in politics.

Remember the conspiracy theory of our government infecting young black males with STDs? It turned out to be true. The Tuskegee experiments are much more off the wall than any conspiracy theory laid out about the Clintons and they turned out to be true.

Err, no... that's not what happened. The government didn't infect anyone. The government took people into the study that had already been infected and told them they were treating it, when really they were just studying how the disease progressed without any intention of treating.

While it is definitely unethical behavior, it wasn't quite as dramatic as you paint it.

Lucem Ferre 11-01-2016 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1763645)
Err, no... that's not what happened. The government didn't infect anyone. The government took people into the study that had already been infected and told them they were treating it, when really they were just studying how the disease progressed without any intention of treating.

While it is definitely unethical behavior, it wasn't quite as dramatic as you paint it.

Oh, this was the post Frownland wad talking about.

OccultHawk 11-05-2016 09:59 PM

RENO, Nev. — In a startling scene, Donald J. Trump was rushed offstage by members of his Secret Service detail during a rally on Saturday night in Reno, Nev., after a person in the crowd shouted that someone had a gun.

The Batlord 11-05-2016 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1765765)
RENO, Nev. — In a startling scene, Donald J. Trump was rushed offstage by members of his Secret Service detail during a rally on Saturday night in Reno, Nev., after a person in the crowd shouted that someone had a gun.

Probably just every member of the audience.

Janszoon 11-05-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1765766)
Probably just every member of the audience.

Except for the dude the secret service grabbed apparently, he was unarmed.

Trump rushed off stage by Secret Service at Reno rally - POLITICO

Xurtio 11-06-2016 05:19 AM

Probaby some liberal troll. Which is great! Now Trump's supporters will all bring guns themselves for protection *cough*flexing*nuts and it will happen all over again.

djchameleon 11-06-2016 05:34 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...74066029_o.jpg

Pretty accurate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...78030141_n.jpg
Also this ^

Xurtio 11-06-2016 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1765822)

That Trump quote is BS

djchameleon 11-06-2016 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1765823)
That Trump quote is BS

It might not have been in People Magazine but I'm sure he's said similar behind closed doors.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-06-2016 07:54 AM

And the rape case has been dropped already as well.

Cuthbert 11-06-2016 08:26 AM

:D

That picture is an obvious wind up.

Imagine someone posted a made up Hillary quote on here as if it was fact then said "yeah but she's probably said similar behind closed doors" :laughing:

Edit: on mobile just saw text underneath so ignore first bit, second bit is true though.

Key 11-06-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1765829)
And the rape case has been dropped already as well.

Yeah, done so by threats. Pretty much giving us a good look into what a Trump presidency will look like.

Frownland 11-06-2016 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1765845)
Yeah, done so by threats. Pretty much giving us a good look into what a Trump presidency will look like.

The stupid conspiracies are going to be coming from Democrats instead of Republicans?

Key 11-06-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766011)
The stupid conspiracies are going to be coming from Democrats instead of Republicans?

Good one.

Lucem Ferre 11-06-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1765824)
It might not have been in People Magazine but I'm sure he's said similar behind closed doors.

I might be a troll, but at least I'm not ^that dumb.

Key 11-06-2016 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1766023)
I might be a troll, but at least I'm not ^that dumb.

Hey, I wanted to say that.

musiclover73 11-06-2016 07:03 PM

Jesus! Chua Me O!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1766133)
Hey, I wanted to say that.

I'm the stupidest that you can't get any stupider. So you can't really look down on anyone. But Jesus Christ saves me the innocent from KKK!

You know world domination and power is for those who want the side of the dark side. I'm not into that. If it were up to me I'd be there for true love and all!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know as an Asian I'm also bias for my yellow skin. But killing someone out of hatred is going a bit too far#

I think you can be racist but at least stay on your side of the fence.

Key 11-06-2016 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclover73 (Post 1766165)
I'm the stupidest that you can't get any stupider. So you can't really look down on anyone. But Jesus Christ saves me the innocent from KKK!

You know world domination and power is for those who want the side of the dark side. I'm not into that. If it were up to me I'd be there for true love and all!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know as an Asian I'm also bias for my yellow skin. But killing someone out of hatred is going a bit too far#

I think you can be racist but at least stay on your side of the fence.

What.

musiclover73 11-06-2016 07:11 PM

Jesus Christ!
 
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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1766168)
What.

Okay as a Vietnamese person I like associating with Vietnamese. That is where I am from. So if it were a different world I would be in Vietnam with my Vietnamese family and friends.

What I am saying is never mind...

The Batlord 11-06-2016 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclover73 (Post 1766165)
I'm the stupidest that you can't get any stupider. So you can't really look down on anyone. But Jesus Christ saves me the innocent from KKK!

You know world domination and power is for those who want the side of the dark side. I'm not into that. If it were up to me I'd be there for true love and all!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know as an Asian I'm also bias for my yellow skin. But killing someone out of hatred is going a bit too far#

I think you can be racist but at least stay on your side of the fence.

Are you a Jedi?

Key 11-06-2016 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclover73 (Post 1766175)
Okay as a Vietnamese person I like associating with Vietnamese. That is where I am from. So if it were a different world I would be in Vietnam with my Vietnamese family and friends.

What I am saying is never mind...

But...why are you responding to me? I literally have no idea who you are other than your lovely introduction with...

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclover73 (Post 1766165)
I'm the stupidest that you can't get any stupider. So you can't really look down on anyone. But Jesus Christ saves me the innocent from KKK!

You know world domination and power is for those who want the side of the dark side. I'm not into that. If it were up to me I'd be there for true love and all!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know as an Asian I'm also bias for my yellow skin. But killing someone out of hatred is going a bit too far#

I think you can be racist but at least stay on your side of the fence.


Lucem Ferre 11-06-2016 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclover73 (Post 1766165)
I'm the stupidest that you can't get any stupider. So you can't really look down on anyone. But Jesus Christ saves me the innocent from KKK!

You know world domination and power is for those who want the side of the dark side. I'm not into that. If it were up to me I'd be there for true love and all!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know as an Asian I'm also bias for my yellow skin. But killing someone out of hatred is going a bit too far#

I think you can be racist but at least stay on your side of the fence.

What the **** are you talking about?

Blank. 11-08-2016 01:11 AM

Anal Trump - That Makes Me Smart


Janszoon 11-08-2016 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1766987)

:laughing:

Edit: Heh, Rob Crow is behind this. It's funny, I was just thinking about Goblin Cock the other day (har har).

Janszoon 11-08-2016 03:02 AM

http://i.imgur.com/c1ZESut.jpg

The Batlord 11-08-2016 03:09 AM

I want an Aryan Trump mask.

Tristan_Geoff 11-08-2016 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1767001)
I want an Aryan Trump mask.

Here you go.

http://freemasonrywatch.org/pics/kkk_hood.jpg


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