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The Batlord 06-11-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1708397)
i remember a few months ago watching a guy on youtube complaining about how when he made a video criticizing hillary, youtube took that video down. and his channels not even popular, hes just some random dude making videos about politics. honestly thats kind of ****ed up... what happened to 'free speech'?

*ACTUALLY they didn't take the video down... i remember now. he makes money off of his youtube videos and they made it so he would not be paid at all for that video. because they didn't like the content. something like that... either way its ****ed up.

That sounds familiar. I'm going to assume it was a DNC takedown, whereby someone makes a copyright claim and that person's video is taken down, regardless of whether or not the claim is valid. The person can appeal the claim, but in the meantime the person/corporation/whatever gets all the money from the video's ad revenue.

That's just Youtube, and it works like that across the board. I wouldn't at all be surprised if political candidates could find ways to say that someone who used a clip from one of their speeches in a video was violating some kind of copyright, but it's not a political conspiracy. Youtube just sucks.

Chula Vista 06-11-2016 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1708395)
Hiltery. This is the search engine. Like China censors the internet I don't want the same thing here I don't want to be taxed way down at the bottom of my Comcast bill under and services and uses charges.

Hitlery? You wear it on your sleeve do damn well.

Yes, a privately owned search engine. Use it to look up CNN, FOX, BBC, or NPR is you want serious and/or openly biased news.

And again with your taxes? Does everything in your world trickle down to taxes and the Government?

Hey, I just googled "Hillary Clinton Crimes" and look what popped up:

BREAKING. White House Admits Hillary Clinton Is Under Criminal Investigation (VIDEO) UPDATED | RedState

A far right Republican biased website dissing on Hillary.

Yes, THE GOOGLE is a CONSPIRACY!!!!!! :yikes:

djchameleon 06-11-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1708395)
This is the search engine. Be like looking in the encyclopedia for great white sharks only to find the pages missing....same premise just technologically.

Actually no, that is a bad example. Sure, it's a search engine but there are so many more out there you could be using. Wikipedia works better with your encyclopedia analogy.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1708396)
Those are media outlets Don this is a ****ing search engine. You're the news is biased propaganda either way...no conspiracy there. But the engine it self no dude lets not go here because Ill take a dangerous freedom then locked down censorship any day.

The keyword here is "a" search engine. You can go to any search engine you want. So what if one of them isn't up to your standards or you have issues with them. Go to use the plethora of other ones available.

Chula Vista 06-11-2016 06:40 PM

No DJ, it's a conspiracy!!!!!

BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!! has been supplanted by GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the next few days by the wingnuts.

Xurtio 06-11-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1708399)
First thing I get when I type in "hillary clinton rac": "hillary clinton racist costume". Fifth down on the list: "hillary clinton racist kkk". You're grasping at straws, bro.

Fair enough. I mean, it still wouldn't be surprising - she's displayed a fair arsenal of strategies in the primary with the media outlets she does have influence over.

Xurtio 06-11-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1708415)
The keyword here is "a" search engine. You can go to any search engine you want. So what if one of them isn't up to your standards or you have issues with them. Go to use the plethora of other ones available.

Google is best search engine! Google is verb.

Goofle 06-11-2016 08:19 PM

Google bans sexy avatars on MB. All together now: F*ck Google.

Xurtio 06-11-2016 08:27 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil

Zhanteimi 06-11-2016 08:28 PM

They just forgot the period. Actually, it's...

Don't. Be evil.

RoxyRollah 06-12-2016 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1708441)
Google bans sexy avatars on MB. All together now: F*ck Google.

The only one that understands my true plight.#bringmylobesback.

RoxyRollah 06-12-2016 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1708415)
Actually no, that is a bad example. Sure, it's a search engine but there are so many more out there you could be using. Wikipedia works better with your encyclopedia analogy.



The keyword here is "a" search engine. You can go to any search engine you want. So what if one of them isn't up to your standards or you have issues with them. Go to use the plethora of other ones available.

Your face is a bad analogy.

RoxyRollah 06-12-2016 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1708411)
Hitlery? You wear it on your sleeve do damn well.

Yes, a privately owned search engine. Use it to look up CNN, FOX, BBC, or NPR is you want serious and/or openly biased news.

And again with your taxes? Does everything in your world trickle down to taxes and the Government?

Hey, I just googled "Hillary Clinton Crimes" and look what popped up:

BREAKING. White House Admits Hillary Clinton Is Under Criminal Investigation (VIDEO) UPDATED | RedState

A far right Republican biased website dissing on Hillary.

Yes, THE GOOGLE is a CONSPIRACY!!!!!! :yikes:

We never have real convsersations because you slice and dice my paragraphs. You are great at picking 1 sentance and just ****ing miss the broader message of what Im tryna say.

Zhanteimi 06-12-2016 01:11 AM

Then stop engaging him, Roxy.

djchameleon 06-12-2016 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1708441)
Google bans sexy avatars on MB. All together now: F*ck Google.

Yes, I miss some of my old sexy avatars.

Fuck Google

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1708470)
Your face is a bad analogy.

yeah well you're so dumb you thought Boyz II Men was a day care center.

RoxyRollah 06-12-2016 07:39 AM

Here Are 10 Examples of Google Search Results Favoring Hillary

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Janszoon 06-12-2016 07:50 AM

Just out of curiosity I typed "Hillary Clinton" into google, and the top three search options I got were, in order:
  1. Hillary Clinton Email
  2. Hillary Clinton Age
  3. Hillary Clinton Benghazi

djchameleon 06-12-2016 08:30 AM




Trickle Down Racism

That is a new one.

Chula Vista 06-12-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr (Post 1708473)
Then stop engaging him, Roxy.

What would Roxy do without you?

Chula Vista 06-12-2016 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1708471)
We never have real convsersations because you slice and dice my paragraphs. You are great at picking 1 sentance and just ****ing miss the broader message of what Im tryna say.

Oh, it's crystal clear what you're trying to say. Over and over and over again.

Re: Google.

Are there really that many morons who are unable to fully type out what they are searching for and instead rely on the search engine to find words for them?

Xurtio 06-12-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1708497)
Just out of curiosity I typed "Hillary Clinton" into google, and the top three search options I got were, in order:
  1. Hillary Clinton Email
  2. Hillary Clinton Age
  3. Hillary Clinton Benghazi

mine are "email, age, twitter". Also, is google.ca not google.com

The Batlord 06-12-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1708500)



Trickle Down Racism

That is a new one.

I don't know what Romney's doing politically these days, so for all I know he's pandering to some constituents he's courting. But on the surface it sounds like now that he's not running for president he's being more honest with his opinions, and he is a republican from Massachusetts.

As far as I'm concerned Mitt Romney might have been the best president we'd had in years. Still an insider, still wishy washy, and almost certainly corrupt (who isn't?), but I can't think of another candidate in recent memory who had a real chance of working with both parties, which is more important IMO than any other single issue right now.

Xurtio 06-12-2016 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1708539)
I don't know what Romney's doing politically these days, so for all I know he's pandering to some constituents he's courting. But on the surface it sounds like now that he's not running for president he's being more honest with his opinions, and he is a republican from Massachusetts.

As far as I'm concerned Mitt Romney might have been the best president we'd had in years. Still an insider, still wishy washy, and almost certainly corrupt (who isn't?), but I can't think of another candidate in recent memory who had a real chance of working with both parties, which is more important IMO than any other single issue right now.

McCain and Sanders worked on Veteran's bill together.

The Republicans make it hard though. Boehner (not a candidate) was more moderate than most and it seemed to be his willingness to compromise with Democrats that caused him to have to step down as speaker.

Chula Vista 06-12-2016 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1708539)
I don't know what Romney's doing politically these days.

Nothing. He's pretty much retired from political life except as a talking head because of his 2012 run.

Remembering Romney's stand on the issues I don't think he would have been good at all. Not to mention we would have had a republican president along with a republican led house and senate.

Romney:
- Pushed to maintain Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.
- Would have repealed the affordable care act.
- Was opposed to same sex marriage.
- Would ban all abortions except for rape and incest.
- Wanted to repeal the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.
- Opposed the DREAM act.
- Was against ending combat actions in Iraq.

Xurtio 06-12-2016 10:56 AM

Re: Romney appealing ACA. Romney (and republicans) had their own plan to help the burden of medicare/caid. It was called romneycare at the time and was being used at the state level where he governed.

Dodd-Frank is pretty much worthless. The banks need to be broken up. Policies and laws are easy to hack when you can afford a team of attorneys to work with the team writing your trading algorithms.

He wasn't as hard against abortion as the media made out either.

Chula Vista 06-12-2016 11:14 AM

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This chart from JP Morgan shows financial sector leverage over the past few decades. As you can see, leverage skyrocketed during the Bush era, which contributed to the 2008 financial meltdown, and then plummeted shortly thereafter. Then it flattened out for a couple of years, and under normal circumstances it probably would have started to climb again when the economy began to recover. Two things stopped it: Dodd-Frank and Basel III, both of which mandated higher capital requirements and thus lower overall leverage levels. This has reduced Wall Street profits but made the banking system safer for everyone.

In other words: financial regulation FTW. Nothing is perfect, and Wall Street is doing everything it can to undermine Dodd-Frank during the rulemaking process, but if it accomplishes nothing except encouraging less leverage it will have done its most important job.
http://www.motherjones.com/files/blo..._1980_2015.jpg

The Batlord 06-12-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1708545)
McCain and Sanders worked on Veteran's bill together.

The Republicans make it hard though. Boehner (not a candidate) was more moderate than most and it seemed to be his willingness to compromise with Democrats that caused him to have to step down as speaker.

I can respect McCain's earlier work, but by the time he was running for president he had become more hardline, and I don't think it was entirely to pander to the republican base, such as his seemingly casual approach to military intervention.

No, Johnny boy, we are not all Georgians now. We are Americans, and I have no desire to get within spitting distance of a war with Russia.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1708549)
Nothing. He's pretty much retired from political life except as a talking head because of his 2012 run.

What I figured. Running for president is generally the end of one's political career, whether you win or lose.

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Remembering Romney's stand on the issues I don't think he would have been good at all. Not to mention we would have had a republican president along with a republican led house and senate.

Romney:
- Pushed to maintain Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.
- Would have repealed the affordable care act.
- Was opposed to same sex marriage.
- Would ban all abortions except for rape and incest.
- Wanted to repeal the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.
- Opposed the DREAM act.
- Was against ending combat actions in Iraq.
That was election talk. He was definitely way more moderate than he came across during his run for president, so you can't really use his talking points from back then as proof of what he would have done in office.

Chula Vista 06-12-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1708571)
That was election talk. He was definitely way more moderate than he came across during his run for president, so you can't really use his talking points from back then as proof of what he would have done in office.

Agreed. But with a majority in both the house and senate I think he would have been pushed to be more right than if there was better legislative balance in Washington.

The Batlord 06-12-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1708577)
Agreed. But with a majority in both the house and senate I think he would have been pushed to be more right than if their was better legislative balance in Washington.

Fair point, but I think he at least had the experience both in years and in dealing with democrats to have been able to actually work with them without alienating them. Even one presidency where every month wasn't some new fight between the executive and the opposing party might do wonders for our political climate. Maybe.

Zhanteimi 06-12-2016 03:03 PM

So, does this Orlando massacre push more voters towards Trump?

Frownland 06-12-2016 03:06 PM

Dumb reactionary honkies were already on his side, so not many.

Chula Vista 06-12-2016 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1708675)
Dumb reactionary honkies were already on his side, so not many.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

The Batlord 06-12-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr (Post 1708673)
So, does this Orlando massacre push more voters towards Trump?

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1708675)
Dumb reactionary honkies were already on his side, so not many.

I'd say a few, but those that hate Trump are going to be annoyed by the reaction from his supporters, and those on the fence are going to be split down the middle like they always were. If Trump were less polarizing then something like this might work more in his favor, but he's one of those people where the people who will support him already are.

djchameleon 06-12-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1708539)
I don't know what Romney's doing politically these days, so for all I know he's pandering to some constituents he's courting. But on the surface it sounds like now that he's not running for president he's being more honest with his opinions, and he is a republican from Massachusetts.

As far as I'm concerned Mitt Romney might have been the best president we'd had in years. Still an insider, still wishy washy, and almost certainly corrupt (who isn't?), but I can't think of another candidate in recent memory who had a real chance of working with both parties, which is more important IMO than any other single issue right now.

There is no way he would have been able to reach across the isle to work with Democrats. I don't know why you think he would be any better than Obama's silly ass attempts to reach across the isle in his first 3 years.

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1708552)
Re: Romney appealing ACA. Romney (and republicans) had their own plan to help the burden of medicare/caid. It was called romneycare at the time and was being used at the state level where he governed.

That is so not true, Romneycare uses a single payer tax system the same thing that Obama was pushing for but it ended up getting ripped to shreds by the Republicans because they didn't want to compromise. ACA is a horrible abomination of what it was initially intended to be. What's left over is some messy healthcare act that the Republicans can spit in Obama's face and say doesn't work and is horrible when they were the ones pushing to dismantle the way that it should have been.

The Batlord 06-12-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1708737)
There is no way he would have been able to reach across the isle to work with Democrats. I don't know why you think he would be any better than Obama's silly ass attempts to reach across the isle in his first 3 years.

Because Romney actually succeeded in Massachusetts? And lol at the idea that Obama actually tried to reach across the aisle. As soon as he was elected I was watching to see if he would do anything to connect with republicans, and at the very first opportunity he made what was essentially a campaign speech about how the republicans were wrecking whatever it was he was trying to do.

Regardless of what you think of the republicans, Obama didn't even try. Plain and simple, he never went off campaign mode until it was too late... assuming it wasn't already too late when a black man was elected president.

djchameleon 06-12-2016 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1708747)
Regardless of what you think of the republicans, Obama didn't even try. Plain and simple, he never went off campaign mode until it was too late... assuming it wasn't already too late when a black man was elected president.

What do you mean Obama didn't even try? Did you not see the first three years of his presidency. He didn't get jack shit done because he was too busy trying to reach across the isle and compromise. If a Republican was voted in, they would give zero fucks with the democrats think and would just push their agenda/policies forward while the iron is hot.

Blank. 06-12-2016 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1708922)
What do you mean Obama didn't even try? Did you not see the first three years of his presidency. He didn't get jack shit done because he was too busy trying to reach across the isle and compromise. If a Republican was voted in, they would give zero fucks with the democrats think and would just push their agenda/policies forward while the iron is hot.

You say that like it's bad for republicans to push their ideas through.

Chula Vista 06-12-2016 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1708924)
You say that like it's bad for republicans to push their ideas through.

The GOP strategy was made clear from day 1 of Obama's first term.

Obama Obstruction Has Made Mitch McConnell America's Most Hated Politician

The Batlord 06-12-2016 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1708922)
What do you mean Obama didn't even try? Did you not see the first three years of his presidency. He didn't get jack shit done because he was too busy trying to reach across the isle and compromise. If a Republican was voted in, they would give zero fucks with the democrats think and would just push their agenda/policies forward while the iron is hot.

No that is not what I saw. I saw him making public statements almost as soon as he came to office saying the exact same things about the Republicans that he had while campaigning. He ran his presidency like he was already running for the next election.

Blank. 06-12-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1708940)
The GOP strategy was made clear from day 1 of Obama's first term.

Obama Obstruction Has Made Mitch McConnell America's Most Hated Politician

Oh please, if the guy in the white house is on the opposite side of the political spectrum from the guys in congress, they always make it hard. That's not just Obama, that's every president ever.

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-12-2016 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1708940)
The GOP strategy was made clear from day 1 of Obama's first term.

Obama Obstruction Has Made Mitch McConnell America's Most Hated Politician

Republican Party has become a comedy party. They were always stupid but their stupidity has gone way up. now many Conservatives are coming out of closest. Most American Conservatives are 100 percent homosexual. Not Bisexual. No. I mean pure HOMOSEXUALS.


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