The Christianity Thread

[Doug McClasky]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

It's an illustration. And when it comes to God and His Lady, we are all children. And yet we are all fully-functioning entities. We are both. The trick is to understand with a mind that isn't childish yet is child-like.

Yeah, I'd rather God didn't demand the obedience of a parent, and gave me more of a safety net against things like pillars of fire that can turn me to salt just by looking at them.

But maybe I'm just crazy.

[Zhanteimi]

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[Doug McClasky]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

Sorry. Things don't work that way. Parents demand obedience, and God is our ultimate parent.

You'd rather not? Well, no one asked you. Parents don't ask the children, because children don't know what's good for them.

"No, little Batlet." Your mama pats you on the head. "You may not eat the entire bag of candy."

And do you know what eventually happens with parents? We grow up, we move out (shut up), and they no longer demand obedience. You know what they call it when one person gets to tell another what to do for their entire life, without the second person being able to argue? Slavery.

[RoxyRollah]

Paint my house^

[Doug McClasky]

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Paint my house^

I'm hungry.

[Zhanteimi]

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[Doug McClasky]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

Exactly. But you clearly haven't grown up yet, since you're not willing to obey without mouthing off. Obedience comes first, then freedom. Not vice versa.

And those who leave home aren't necessarily grown up. Just because one has the body of an adult doesn't mean one's mind is mature, too. I know plenty of so-called adults who are mentally, socially, and spiritually still children.

Yeah, no, you just completely missed the point. No matter how many wishy washy metaphors for freedom you wanna throw around, you are always a slave to God in Christianity. You don't get to run your opinions by God on how the Bible should be rewritten. You don't get to make up your own rules about how you should be able to live while still going to Heaven. You don't even get to frivolously say his name out loud.

If you were free, you wouldn't be bound by his laws. They would simply be suggestions which, when violated, would not send you to hell.

[Zhanteimi]

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[Doug McClasky]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

There is freedom in slavery. The greatest freedom is slavery to God's will.

War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength

[RoxyRollah]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm hungry.

Just do what I tell ya.