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Chula Vista 12-11-2016 07:25 PM

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Lucem Ferre 12-11-2016 07:38 PM

I think one truth that a lot of lower class people don't want to admit is that most of them are only where they are because they put themselves there. Yeah, they work their asses off at their job, usually harder than most upper class people can fathom, but they never put the effort into getting themselves out. Dumb decisions and ****ty spending habits will forever keep certain people down.

Now the truth that upper class people don't want to admit is despite the fact that yes, you did have to work to get to where you are at, where you are at has much more to do with luck and being in the right place at the right time than any kind of work ethic that set you apart from the lower class people. Face it, if these people were put in the same place as many lower class people were they would get stuck too.

Of course there are always exceptions, but hey.

Oh, and as for taking advantage of the system for welfare and food stamps, it's pretty damn easy. People are always getting away with lying because they don't check up on it is often and strict as they say the do. I know, I've seen it happen. At the same time it does not happen nearly as often as people think. Most people that have admit to using these benefits are the people that used it for a short time when they needed it. And they didn't make it well known that they used it. In fact, a lot of people are embarrassed or ashamed of it. Something I noticed when discussing the topic before.

djchameleon 12-11-2016 07:54 PM

It might be easy in your area to get away with lying but I see it fairly regularly when they do round ups and end up arrested 30 to 35 people that were caught committing fraud.

Lucem Ferre 12-11-2016 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1782075)
It might be easy in your area to get away with lying but I see it fairly regularly when they do round ups and end up arrested 30 to 35 people that were caught committing fraud.

Like a drug raid? I hardly believe. Because remember that Old Dirty Bastard publicly cheated the system.

DwnWthVwls 12-11-2016 08:47 PM

Generally speaking, the only exception to the "environment rule" is people who live in high crime areas where the environment really does have drastic impact on decision making. Having crappy/drug addict parents is not a good excuse.

When you boil it down there are two mindsets (homeless, rich, poor, or middle class):

1) Make it, spend it, f*ck it, you only live once
2) Always put something aside just in case, the future matters

Anyone in category one is not someone I want to be supporting. Living beyond your means is not justification for being a mooch.

Key 12-11-2016 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1782050)
He's so sure that he's going to be in for two terms.

Almost as funny as the fact that he thinks he's going to be in one term.

Lucem Ferre 12-11-2016 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1782116)
Generally speaking, the only exception to the "environment rule" is people who live in high crime areas where the environment really does have drastic impact on decision making. Having crappy/drug addict parents is not a good excuse.

When you boil it down there are two mindsets (homeless, rich, poor, or middle class):

1) Make it, spend it, f*ck it, you only live once
2) Always put something aside just in case, the future matters

Anyone in category one is not someone I want to be supporting. Living beyond your means is not justification for being a mooch.

Nothing is ever that simple. People have to know this by now.

DwnWthVwls 12-11-2016 10:37 PM

It's a generalization.

If you have a 3rd, 4th, 5th group you think is worth mentioning then feel free, but in my 30 years life experience those 2 descriptions are pretty easily applied to everyone I've ever met.

Lucem Ferre 12-11-2016 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1782172)
It's a generalization.

If you have a 3rd, 4th, 5th group you think is worth mentioning then feel free, but in my 30 years life experience those 2 descriptions are pretty easily applied to everyone I've ever met.

No I just think there are varying degrees between the two.


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