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Goofle 01-15-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1795799)
Well I assumed your post was in response to the Hitler post.

I would never lower Hitler to the level of Communism. It's a losing battle for Adolf, nowhere near as destructive.

Key 01-15-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1795800)
I would never lower Hitler to the level of Communism. It's a losing battle for Adolf, nowhere near as destructive.

I...wait so you hold Hitler to a higher standard than socialism as a whole? I'm confused.

Trollheart 01-15-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1795800)
I would never lower Hitler to the level of Communism. It's a losing battle for Adolf, nowhere near as destructive.

The point was that some things are set in stone. Hitler was evil. Batty can laugh and joke about it all he wants, but nobody in their right mind thinks otherwise. McCarthy may not have been evil, but he was a **** and he railroaded and blacklisted people based on their political beliefs and affiliations, which is never right. Haven't you even seen The Front?

I just don't understand how you can stand up for McCarthy. It staggers me. And I'm not even American.

Goofle 01-15-2017 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1795801)
I...wait so you hold Hitler to a higher standard than socialism as a whole? I'm confused.

Hitler was a Socialist.

And TH, McCarthy has been proven right.

Trump tweeted something, let's check it out.

Key 01-15-2017 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1795804)
Hitler was a Socialist.

And TH, McCarthy has been proven right.

Trump tweeted something, let's check it out.

That didn't answer my question.

Goofle 01-15-2017 07:42 PM

I'm happy to condemn all of the mass murdering government tyrants. Bad people. Obviously Stalin and Mao were worse, but Hitler was still a 1/10 at best.

Anteater 01-15-2017 07:57 PM

I personally have no problem with a "classical" liberal school of thought. Maybe not universal healthcare necessarily (it takes months to see a specialist in Canada), but in regards to taxation, social issues in general, etc...we should want to fight for those things. However, the problem is that liberals here in the U.S. (and in some places abroad) don't want to deal with the hard truths of radical Islam and it's roots. They advocate for head-scratching border policies and notoriously convoluted tax legislature. They also tend to be more concerned with identity politics at the expense of everything else...all of which came back to bite them in the ass this election cycle.

Hopefully Trump will be a good wake up call (regardless of his successes or failures) so that someday that Democratic Party (or some comparable candidate, like a reasonable Libertarian) will eventually take office and make decisions that actually help the middle class and take logical positions on issues like race, rather than demonizing the "white man" (Obama) or "anyone who isn't white" (Trump)

Trollheart 01-15-2017 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1795804)
Hitler was a Socialist.

And TH, McCarthy has been proven right.

Trump tweeted something, let's check it out.

How has he been proven right? And even if he was, does that excuse his execrable behaviour at the time? The end does not justify the means, you know. A lot of good people got blacklisted and couldn't work just because they had either communist leanings or had some association with the Party. They weren't all planning to bring down the USA. Honestly, your attitude makes me feel physically sick. Going back to Hitler, if somehow we were now being ruled by a Jewish oligarchy or whatever, would you excuse his actions on the basis that he was "right"? Or if America decided to take over the world, would Bin Laden and KSM have been right?

elphenor 01-15-2017 08:31 PM

witch hunter pretty much sums him up

it's a dark tale about how fear made Americans abandon their fundamental values

he's personally famous for blacklisting which would ruin a person's life

elphenor 01-15-2017 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1795808)
Maybe not universal healthcare necessarily (it takes months to see a specialist in Canada)

Unless you're wealthy in the states with a great insurance plan your wait times are comparable if you can even see a doctor


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