Anyone have a gif for cherrypicking?

Boogey boogey. Its fun to be the aneater to your chula.

Youre really good at misrepresenting my usage of the word health.

Growing apathy during the latter part of the Bush administration through the eight years of Obama (AKA Wall-Street's golden boy) administration is a major factor to why we have Trump today, and his ongoing failures are only going to build on that apathy in 2020. If the Dems won't step up with a serious candidate and a real plan of action, maybe the Libertarians will.

I remember reading not long ago that three electoral votes from 2016 actually went to Colin Powell as opposed to Clinton or Trump. Who would take him as POTUS in 2020 at this point? :p:

How about this frowns? Are you paying your own way in this big bad world?

I don't pay rent anymore but I pay for all of my student loans (~1k/mo), food, clothes, and phone service. Rent prices here are insane so I live with my parents. I don't think I know any college grads my age who aren't married that's paying rent down here on their own. If I didn't have those goddamned student loans or if I could relocate to a cheaper area while maintaining a secure job, it might be feasible but nah. I'm lucky af to be working in the field I studied and that I have supportive parents though. Thanks for the reminder Chula, I guess it ain't too bad.

I know rent is crazy high there but it's a pretty big difference when you have no support at all. If I don't pay rent my **** is on the street getting rained on and I'm looking for the homeless shelter. I doubt Chula has anyone either. When **** goes tits up and your life is literally on the line and there's nobody but yourself it's different.

Duh.

Chula seems like the kind of guy who would have a lot of friends and family getting his back when he really needs it, but I hear ya.

Now, what exactly does that have to do with eating healthy, exercising, and seeing a therapist to help with your cholesterol, blood pressure, and depression (in reference to the start of our interaction)? Because I'm honestly pretty sure that more struggles would make me more of a douchebag.

Nice assumption. But no. There's no fat cats who will help me pay my mortgage so that I don't lose my home - which is becomming more of a reality with each passing week.

Impossible to imagine.

Yes there is increased hate against Trump but that doesn't automatically translate to increased voter turnout.

People tend to do more talking and posturing than they do with follow through. So voter turnout will continue to be low regardless. If the Dems find a huge rockstar progressive policitian to back maybe things will be different but just another establishment Dem won't cut it.

Hey if you ever feel like a refi you know who to call :wavey:.

You must have met like five guys who were kind of rude to you in your whole life if that's really how you feel because I'm turning it down here. Either that or I've been exposed to the darkest corners of human douchivity.

I've known a ton of *******s. You said "make me more of a douche", not "make me the worst douche ever in Chula's life".

My point is that I find it hard to imagine YOU being more of a douche. You've got it pretty much down at this point.

Objectivity and honesty = douche to most of society

You do go in hard on Chula sometimes though. Ill give him that.

You've really thought this through. I'll concede.

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Man, lots of Republicans beginning to speak up publically based on the news tonight.

"It's all happening".

Man, I wish I could know this much about a person based on their internet persona alone.

I'm pretty sure I made the point that would classify as the opposite of an increased voter turnout.

I even said it in the post you quoted.

Read DJ's post again.

I don't wanna. I just wanna point out his wrong points and argue.

OK.

He's got the "Internet Music Banter Douche" thing down pat.

Better? :rolleyes:

Yes.

See, this is where I disagree. Of course how accessible healthcare is would be tied to the health of our nation. I just don't think a lack of accessibility to healthcare is anywhere close to being the reason why American's are so unhealthy. It's unhealthy eating, no exorcise, drug addiction and suicide that seems to be all tied to our mortality rate. None of this is a result of healthcare. Except for maybe drug addiction because they do give people in a lot of pain opium and ****. Even then, at what point are people taking responsibility for taking more than what's prescribed? A lot of these issues are more heavily social, economic and education issues than healthcare issues.

:tramp::tramp::tramp::tramp::tramp:

Man, John Kasich is leading the charge tonight. And other's are following.

Frown

My point is that you were very nonchalant about Chula's medical needs and your commonsense solutions. You're lack of empathy told me you've never been there. Chula said you're still on mommy's tits. And you are. Only a child would say that **** about he doesn't need his medicine. If you make it through without some kind of predictable hipster death, you'll see.

You are so busy trying to argue with me that you don't realize why I quoted your post.

I was agreeing with and reinforcing your claims but also explaining a bit more why.

You realize that changing your diet can reverse your independence for those kinds of things right (BP, CL, etc)? His needs are most likely the result of his own actions (diet and all the drugs from his youth). Obviously, he can't take any of that back, but he can work on making better decisions going forward, which I think was the point.

The stress though, that is the real bitch. You can't really do anything except try and change who you are or your situation (but if it's a chem imbalance thing youre kinda screwed). I advocate for meditation and more physical activity to help reduce stress levels. I'm a monster.

Personally, I'd feel more comfortable if the discussion in this thread were kept more on topic. IRL Chula and his family clearly have some worrying financial and health problems. If he chooses to confide them to us, I think we should either show some sympathy or keep quiet. None of that information should be used for making negative comments or scoring debate points.
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On topic, I can't remember a time when American politics were this exciting. Last night on an MNBC show, they were really laying into the Republican party. I wish now I'd written a memo, or "memcon" as I have just learned they are called, because one commentator made the following points:-

i) last night, there were no GOP members on tv prepared to debate the latest Trump fiasco
ii) doners to the GOP are watching tv, though, and they are not at all happy
iii) the history of the Russian investigation is being written now, and the silence of the GOP will be held against them by history; how can they stand aside and let Trump bully the FBI and cozy up to Russia, inviting them and their press to the WH and giving them classified info?
iv) with Nixon's impeachment, 40 politicians went to prison because they were sucked into helping the leader of their party and ended up doing illegal stuff. Republicans involved in anything to do with the Russian investigation will find themselves under similar scrutiny, and the first question will be; why did you say nothing?
v) who wants to talk about tax reform now? The combination of loyalty to Trump, and Trump's bull-in-a-china-shop self-inflicted disasters means that the entire Republican agenda has become derailed.
vi) The Republicans have painted themselves into a corner; to investigate or not investigate, to impeach or not impeach. All roads spell disaster for them.

Bottom line: lots of sympathy for Chula. Zero sympathy for Republicans.

We're not here for points :D

Sorry Lisna, I just come here to read about Trump things I may not have heard from other sources. There's generally not much to discuss since it's unfolding before our eyes, and I don't have any interest in trying to speculate about this shitshow of a president. Also, to poke elph.

^ Well at least you're clear about your own motives, which is never a bad thing!

Father Time is undefeated.

No matter how you plan to exercise, mediate, eat right, you're still going to get sick and die. Life is the process of dying.

I doubt that I ever said he didn't need medicine. I simply listed the actual preventative practices associated with his meds, since he presented it as if the meds were a preventative treatment. I'm not sure if that equates to nonchalantly writing off his problems as you seem to be reading it but if that's the interpretation you're sticking to then feel free, oh wise one.

:pimp: hes getting impeached soon

I don't like heroin use being described as an epidemic. That's bad PR for my business.

Dems are on the house floor this morning calling for an impeachment vote which is most likely to fail. Well a vote to start the proceedings which can still take months.

This is part of the reason why most younger adults feel like they don't need health insurance.

Re: Eating well and diet.

I'm 5'-9" and only weigh 150 pounds. I don't eat junk. Years back I cut way down on sugar, caffiene, salt, fats, etc. My BP and CL issues are mostly hereditary as stated earlier.

Trump's speech this morning: :bonkhead:

I have hereditary high blood pressure too. Watching what you eat can help the issue quite a bit although it might not erase it. Especially watch out for foods with a lot of sodium.

15 years ago I was at 190 over 110. I immediately cut way back on salt and started experimenting with meds. Took a while to find the right combo with no side effects. Last checkup a fews weeks ago I was 137 over 79. :love:

Sean Spicer in two weeks.

http://i.imgur.com/dJioKM2.png

I really hope they don't let Spicey go. He's so cute when he gets all flustered.