Ant, once again, trying to defend the fact that he's kissing Trump's ass. As usual.

Obama inherited the recession thanks to GWB. He relied on numerous economic advisers on how to handle things and ended up fixing it as best as any person could have under the circumstances. Both my 401K and home value recovered as a result.

Re: Unemployment. Companies that had been operating fat prior to the economic collapse were simply forced to learn how to operate a lot leaner. After the economy recovered were they simply suppose to re-hire everyone back? Can't blame that on the president.

Obama left office with one of the top 5 highest approval ratings of any president. Trump has the absolute worst approval rating after his first 100 days and has managed to piss everyone off (except for Ant) in the process.

Glad that ammuses you.

So because you benefited then the millions of other people out there who didn't should just eat shit? Typical Chula: 0 reading comprehension (must have missed my last few posts), 100% hypocrisy.

The stimulus package came at the tail-end of the Bush administration. Obama had the opportunity to build on it and failed miserably. There are countless people who have still not recovered from that disaster. What has Trump done in his first one hundred days that even remotely compares to that?

The rest of your post isn't even worth commenting on.

But that's the funny part: they still gotta play ball. :thumb:

Don't cut yourself on that edge.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_cookie

damn muricans

A wok is a Chinese cooking vessel, so I thought I was doing a clever play on words considering this is China and North Korea. If that's racist then you need to lay off the liberal uber-PC culture Koolaid.

Actually, Koreans are known to wok the dog.

Before or after they wok the cat?

North Korea is the meat between two pieces of bread here. So no, it was clever and you are wong.

George Will column: This president does not know what it is to know | THEIR OPINION | richmond.com

And if you don't know George Will, you'd know that he is the furthest from liberal that you can be.

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My hope is that this will result in legal precedent stating that Trump's mouth is only good for one thing.

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I don't see the problem.

Qualify this statement with some facts. I already addressed the unemployment bit, which is what the GOP loves to cling to.

Come on Ant, step up.

401K and home gains benefited a huge majority of the country. Don't be dense. Stop trying to make it personal to justify your Trump love.

I did step it up. Remember that lovely Vice article you didn't bother to read a few weeks back? It addresses everything I've brought up and more, but you wrote it off and continue to stick your head in the sand. You just choose to ignore what's convenient to you and then put out idiotic statements that apply to you in partisan terms (see bolded). You made this personal and I have qualified my statements on numerous occasions, including how I actually view Trump. You have no imagination and can't come up with anything, so it's "anyone who disagrees with me is a Trump supporter / a member of the GOP" as usual from you.

I'm critical of Trump, but I don't hate him. I'm critical of all politicians, and people like Obama especially since I held him at a much higher standard than Trump and voted for him twice. You are critical (at a kindergartner's level anyway) of Trump and his allies but hate them mindlessly and remain less-than-critical in regards to key individuals in your political camp who created Donald Trump as we see him today. You don't seem to get this distinction or choose not to see it.

You should try resorting to better tactics, because this mindless cliche liberal "burn the witch" garbage mentality makes you look infinitely more stupid than anything I've brought up in this thread over the past six months.

You lost all credibility by quoting a site like Vice in the first place buddy.

Go slink away. The Trump ass stink on your lips is repuslive.

Lol...you (based on your last few posts) have the reasoning abilities of a turnip and posses such a low level of reading comprehension that you make Donald Trump look like an Academic Decathlon champion. Do you see why everyone gives you such a hard time now? If you'd actually read what is posted before you respond out of spite, it would make such a difference.

Prove that I'm wrong about you. It wouldn't be that hard if you gave it some thought.

Not a big deal since they investigate any situation on TV or radio in the event of a complaint, that's what they're there for.

I don't understand why people are upset over that joke. The most offensive part is that he used the term cock holster instead of dick holster, which is clearly the more natural sounding insult that has better flow to boot.

I disagree with your points of view, therefore:

- I'm right and you're wrong.
- I'm smart and you're dumb.
- I can comprehend and you can't.
- My points are sensible but your's aren't.
- I read your posts but you don't read mine.

Ant in a nutshell.

Take out the bolded text and you'd be at least a smidgen closer. Oh well. ;)

At some point you'll learn how to be reasonable instead of leading every one of your posts toward me as "GOP shill / Trump lover" because you don't have an actual argument and can't be bothered to read a simple article because your "too good" for it. Until then, I'll treat you like a child because you have the thought process of a child.

Again, I don't log in here like I'm walking into a high school debate class. You state your opinions, I'll state mine.

TO ME, you continuously come off as a Trump apologist/deflector.

Completely fine by me if you don't see it that way.

Step up your game - it's been over 10 posts since you blamed something on Obama in order to deflect Trump criticism.

In other news: Where the hell is Kellyanne Conway? She's been MIA for over a month.

Then maybe you should. And opinions without discussion is boring as **** and who the **** cares.

What's the point? Are we suppose to care about trying to change each other's minds? I am discussing. But I'm not bending just for bendings sake.

It's just a cop out for when he's too lazy to back up his points.

This kinda says it all. The whole point of debate is to flesh out ideas and potentially change your mind. If you go into it without the remotest openness to having your own beliefs challenged, what's the point?

A discussion is not two people spewing what they think and completely ignoring each others thoughts. No one is asking you to change your opinions or change theirs, we just want your reasoning which you seldom give (in my experience).

Oh spare me the wannabe judgement bullox. I asked you a basic question almost two pages ago that you ignored. And your adverseness to Vice is a huge head scratcher as well: they're about as liberal as it gets. I don't agree with a lot of their columnists, but they certainly put way more work into their content than HuffPost and their ilk.

This is what I said after your initial response:

You had nothing to say to that because all you can speak from is personal experience and write off the 9.3 other million who lost everything. People who lost their homes and all their savings, not just their jobs. Bush's policies led to the recession, but the stimulus package was his administration's work as well. Obama merely gave it a thumbs up and then went to play golf. Trump is a lummox, but at least he isn't playing golf in the middle of an international housing crisis. He has an entire host of other problems of course, but that's outside the scope of what I was talking about.

One of the reasons I voted for Obama originally was because he acted like he wanted to take on Wall-Street: he dropped that ball hard and it didn't even take 100 days for him to do so. But what did the mainstream media (sans Fox News) do at the time? Coddle him of course. "Yay first black president!! Who cares about all that other stuff! Woohoo!!"

What you need to understand is that Trump is necessary for the next four years. That's not being an apologist: that's the big picture. He's the wake-up call the Democratic Party needs. Next time they'll shoot for somebody like Sanders as their primary candidate and maybe develop a message that will energize the independents as well. And that way maybe there's a slim chance I don't have to sit through another decade of lies from either party.

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know if you know what I mean
Philosophy is the talk on a cereal box
Religion is the smile on a dog

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know if you know what I mean
Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are - or what?

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know if you know what I mean
Philosophy is a walk on the slippery rocks
Religion is a light in the fog

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know if you know what I mean
Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are - or what?
Don't let me get too deep


AGAIN!!!!!! I'm not debating. I'm not trying to change anyone's outlook or have mine changed. I'm too old for that ****. Live 57 years and then get back to me about a flexible mindset.

We're talking politics here - not whether or not dogs should be allowed on restaurant patios or some other stupid ****.

Is there a Music Banter rule in regards to going into every discussion with a completely open mind that's willing to flip flop based on another member's viewpoint?

I've been here a few years and never seen it happen. Don't dump that prerequisite at my doorstep. :nono:

Tl;dr

Yep.

OMFG. Did you really just type that?

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ways.html?_r=0

North Korea
China
Healthcare
The Wall
Mexico
Canada
The division in Washington
etc.

**** off son. Define "constructive conversation" in regard to politics. I dare you.

What's wrong? You're saying your bit and I'm saying mine. Quit trying to change my mind.

It is sad that you've succumbed to the modern state of political discussion instead of being reasoned and thoughtful. It must be stressful.

Here's a def

constructive
A constructive discussion, comment, or approach is useful and helpful rather than negative and unhelpful.

But on the subject of politics. Should I elaborate?

You should really stop at trying to be cute. You're simply never going to get there.

Are you calling me cute? ;)