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OccultHawk 02-25-2017 07:57 PM

He's a dictator.

So whatever he does is the kind of thing a dictator does.

I hate everything he does. I hate that he breathes.

Anteater 02-25-2017 07:57 PM

I personally applaud him for not going. Especially after how Obama belittled him (and thus setting him on the road to the presidency) at the last one he attended. He's trolling at an unbelievably high level with stuff like this. :laughing:

OccultHawk 02-25-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1809133)
It's like, when he made that extremely ironic statement I thought, "Maybe he just doesn't know what fascism means".

I do. Trump is Hitler.

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 07:59 PM

Lol Ant. Have fun being a punching bag for the next 5 pages. Im out.

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1809136)
I do. Trump is Hitler.

You contribute to animal genocide. Youre Hitler.

Anteater 02-25-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809137)
Lol Ant. Have fun being a punching bag for the next 5 pages. Im out.

Their responses to everything Trump says or does is predictable to the point where I feel like I'm one of those psychics from Minority Report. That's why I take the other side by default just to see how far I can push them. :laughing:

OccultHawk 02-25-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809138)
You contribute to animal genocide. Youre Hitler.

Everyone who pays taxes in America is worse than Hitler.

Lucem Ferre 02-25-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1809134)
He's a dictator.

So whatever he does is the kind of thing a dictator does.

I hate everything he does. I hate that he breathes.

He's trying to be a dictator. But he's not. Soon he'll learn that the hard way. Maybe when China takes over you can know what a real dictator is like.


****ty logic. So you're saying being vegan is Nazi stuff because Hitler was a vegan? No. In no way shape or form does him not doing it fit under the titles 'Dictator' or 'Fascist'. In fact, demanding that he does it is actually fascist.

I have no real point, I just want to say that this reminded me of a skit from an XXXTentacion song with the KKK saying, "I don't need a reason to hate [Black People]! I hate them because they breathe! I hate them because they exist!"

Neapolitan 02-25-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1809139)
Their responses to everything Trump says or does is predictable to the point where I feel like I'm one of those psychics from Minority Report. That's why I take the other side by default just to see how far I can push them. :laughing:

They were called "precogs" - a term taken from the word "precognition." Only one was "psychic" the other two were sidekicks.

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 08:16 PM

I love when Nea comes in with the random facts. :beer:

djchameleon 02-25-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808685)
The two aren't connected in anyway though

Should everyone who's bad with money not get a driver's license? And do we let the DMV decide that by looking at your finances lol

This isn't just about someone being bad with money. This is a government agency determining that someone is mentally ill to the point that they need someone else to look over their finances. These are generally people that also need help with getting basic daily things done like making sure they shower/clean/etc. There is a big difference between the two.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808718)
Automatic weapons and high capacity magazines should be straight banned just like you aren't allowed explosives

But a hand gun or a hunting rifle idk that I can support a complete ban

People don't need them for protection really they just want to own a gun because they like guns

Banning those things doesn't deter people from still obtaining them if they wanted. Also you can still carry out a nice massacre with a hand gun that's way more effective than spray and pray.

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1808726)
I certainly can get on board with the individual basis, that we can agree on. We can disagree thats what adults do, see Don its possible. There are people who collect guns and those that use them for the wrong reasons, its a real catch 22 though to take away everyones rights.

I might have missed parts of this conversation but when gun control generally pops up it isn't about taking away everyone's rights. I did see a few posters talking about banning all guns in general but that is never on the table when gun control is brought up. It's just a boogie man tactic used by the right to get them riled up about the government coming to take their guns.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1809025)
My warning would be very loud and very clear. The upstairs hall light would be on right after I got my gun, and before I dialed 911. Pulling the trigger would be the absolute last resort.

This is not a cavalier issue. Even though a lot of dudes who own guns to make up for having a small dick try to make it one.

I take gun ownership as serious as it can be taken.

You are luck you can do that in Cali. In NY, if you shoot someone breaking into your house you can be charged and sued by the burglar for putting his life at risk.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1809112)
Durn. Watching a Trump roast under any circumstances would be epic.

Comedy Central did that a few years ago bro. You are late to the party.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809129)
No it doesnt and doing things out of tradition is stupid. Its not his tradition. People getting offended by expectations they force on others is bs and childlike.

yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah, that's fine and all for an individual like yourself but when you step into a job that is inherently traditional. You should follow it regardless of your own personal opinion about traditions. That's like him saying "Oh I don't like traditions so fuck doing an inauguration."

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 09:41 PM

You really give a shit if Trump doesn't go to some dinner? I sure as fuck don't. And I think that's an awfully apples and oranges comparison between a media dinner and an inauguration speech.

Maybe I'm not understanding what all goes on at this dinner, but does him not showing up affect anything? If the answer is no, then I repeat, I do not care.

djchameleon 02-25-2017 10:27 PM

It's leading to how Putin did the same thing but on a more extreme basis when he had the state take over a national tv network.

He went to war with the media in his first year as well for the entire year.

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1809135)
Especially after how Obama belittled him.

Obama belittled him? Wouldn't you agree that the Trumpster asked for it with all of the birther BS and trying his damdest to delegitimize Obama's presidency?

"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones", comes to mind.

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809168)
And I think that's an awfully apples and oranges comparison between a media dinner and an inauguration speech.

It's a Washington institution. Like I said earlier, it's been 35 years since a sitting president missed one and that's only because he'd gotten shot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_...9;_Association

This is just Trump being Trump to keep up his rebel facade with his ever shrinking base. Approval ratings under 40% after only a month in office? :laughing:

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 10:41 PM

Yeh i understand that Chula and i did read the wiki. Like i said maybe i just dont understand the consequnces of him not showing. I ger that its viewed as disrespectful(even if i think thats dumb), but if it doesnt actually affect anything idc.

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809179)
but if it doesnt actually affect anything idc.

It further emblazens his zombie followers who truly believe that Trump's problems are all "the media's fault" instead them being Trump consantly stubbing his own damn toes.

Like others have said, deligitimizing the media is step one towards a dictatorship.

That Comedy Central roast a few years ago proved that Trump can dish it out as good as he can take it. He truly impressed me that night. I actually believe he would have loved to have attended but that Bannon convinced him not to to further "the agenda".

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 11:02 PM

:laughing:

https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...19&oe=59458B88

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 11:17 PM

So short answer is no. His zombie followers arent gonna change and his approval ratings are plummeting. I see no reason to care. Actually seems like a good thing that hes just making himself look worse. The more he screws up the less support he recieves, this fear of dictatorship seems pretty irrational.

Also lol at Obama.

Anteater 02-25-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1809175)
Obama belittled him? Wouldn't you agree that the Trumpster asked for it with all of the birther BS and trying his damdest to delegitimize Obama's presidency?

"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones", comes to mind.

Not really. That was a pretty "thin skinned" thing for Obama to do. There were a lot of people questioning Obama's birth certificate for awhile besides Trump during that same time period. He was just one high profile voice among other high profile voices all saying the same thing. So why specifically single Trump out, invite him to the 2011 correspondents' dinner and then belittle him for half an hour in front of millions of people when you are the POTUS and he's a private citizen? That's the kind of thing that you'd expect from someone LIKE Trump, not Obama.

Secondly, this incident is what incited Trump to seriously run for office in the first place, which is why we are in this situation today. So you could make the argument that Obama made a huge mistake by doing something that was fairly unpresidential by his standards. Rather than glass houses, I think "karma is a bitch" is a better summation of what has happened. :laughing:

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1809192)
There were a lot of people questioning Obama's birth certificate for awhile besides Trump during that same time period. Why invite him to the 2011 association dinner and then belittle him for half an hour in front of millions of people when you are the POTUS and he's a private citizen?

Please. Firstly he spent about 2.5 minutes focusing on Trump. Secondly, Trump must have known fully well what he'd be walking into to. And lastly, Trump was chuckling and nodding in approval at Obama's jabs.

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Secondly, this incident is what incited Trump to seriously run for office in the first place, which is why we are in this situation in the first place. So you could make the argument that Obama made a huge mistake by doing something that was fairly unpresidential by his standards.
Please. It's a comedy roast. No person or subject is off limits. Obama was absolutely brilliant at them. The dude could easily have been a comedian. Check out the episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee with Obama and Seinfeld. Guy's a natural.

Your Trump apologist persona once again bubbles up to the surface.

TRUMP IS ALL OBAMA'S FAULT!!!!!!! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Lucem Ferre 02-26-2017 01:14 AM

Yeah, I don't see how you could be blaming Obama for everything Trump does.

I also don't see how people can twist Trump not doing this dinner into him being a fascist.

People are stupid.

Edit: Let me rephrase that, people are desperate.

Lisnaholic 02-26-2017 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1808956)
Dan Rather is an icon and knows a thing or two about being politically suppressed.


^ Thanks, that's an interesting clip. He looked a lot younger then, but the way he stayed so professional under pressure is impressive.


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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1809201)
I also don't see how people can twist Trump not doing this dinner into him being a fascist.

People are stupid.

Edit: Let me rephrase that, people are desperate.

Your edit makes this a pretty funny post Lucem!
I agree that not attending a dinner is hardly a fascist stance, though it does send a pretty negative message; it's like if you boss won't go to the office party at Christmas. Everybody thinks, "What's this guy's problem?"

My recommendation is don't worry about the dinner, but worry about this description of a nation...
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...which with all its strength and virtue is in the grip of a group of ruthless men preaching a gospel of intolerance and racial pride unrestrained by law by parliament or by public opinion.
Is that Dan Rather's description of Trump's America? No, it's Churchill's description of Germany during Hitler's rise to power.

DwnWthVwls 02-26-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1809204)
hm

That was just a restatement of what Chula said, idk the stats. To clarify, he has two kinds of followers. The zombies that will support him no matter what and other people who bought into his bull****. The former is a small minority and the latter accounts for the loss in support.

Anteater 02-26-2017 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1809194)
Please. Firstly he spent about 2.5 minutes focusing on Trump. Secondly, Trump must have known fully well what he'd be walking into to. And lastly, Trump was chuckling and nodding in approval at Obama's jabs.

Nope. It wasn't just 2.5 minutes (plus Seth Meyers got up on stage also) and no, he didn't know what he was walking into. Knowing Trump's personality, be honest here: do you really think he took it well? You guys talk about how thin skinned he is all the time. Was there some magical time where Trump was not thin skinned?

How The White House Correspondents' Dinner Gave Us Trump | National Review

Trump Reacts to Mockery From President Obama and Seth Meyers:


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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1809194)
Please. It's a comedy roast. No person or subject is off limits. Obama was absolutely brilliant at them. The dude could easily have been a comedian. Check out the episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee with Obama and Seinfeld. Guy's a natural.

Your Trump apologist persona once again bubbles up to the surface.

TRUMP IS ALL OBAMA'S FAULT!!!!!!! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Harhar. Yeah it was funny, and Obama is a funny / charming dude. But you wake up every day and now the guy who wanted revenge for public humiliation is now your President. Asking you to use your brain for critical thinking doesn't make me a Trump apologist. I don't like the guy and I voted for Obama....but I think what he did in retrospect was unbelievably stupid. He had a prominent hand in creating the environment that gave Trump the motivation to run and the opportunity to win, and that's a fact. Again: you are the one with an inconsistent view on Trump. Do I need to lecture you on how his personality works, or are you savvy enough to connect the dots yourself?

I've seen plenty of editorials on both sides of this fence, but it should be obvious that I'm correct if everything we've seen about Trump's personality has always been what it is.

Frownland 02-26-2017 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809189)
So short answer is no. His zombie followers arent gonna change and his approval ratings are plummeting. I see no reason to care. Actually seems like a good thing that hes just making himself look worse. The more he screws up the less support he recieves, this fear of dictatorship seems pretty irrational.

Also lol at Obama.

It's stupid hype that deflects attention away from any of Trump's actions that might actually matter to the American people.

Chula Vista 02-26-2017 10:27 AM

You obviously haven't seen his Comedy Central roast.


OccultHawk 02-26-2017 10:46 AM

Humor is an important tool against fascism.

The Batlord 02-26-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1809293)
Humor is an important tool against fascism.

Especially Holocaust humor.

Raust 02-26-2017 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1809293)
Humor is an important tool against fascism.

Surprised at the lack of comedic skills coming out from people on the left poking fun at him as of late. Maybe dipping your face in cheeto dust will show him.

Not surprised he decided not to show up to the correspondence dinner. Sounds like there's going to be a poor turn out, celebrities that hate his guts and the press. Funny how people are making a fuss out of this.

Chula Vista 02-26-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1809330)
Surprised at the lack of comedic skills coming out from people on the left poking fun at him as of late.

Yup, it's really difficult to come across any funnier than his advisors and supporters when they are interviewed on the evening news shows.

The Three Stooges have the comedy market cornered right now.

http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc...G?v=1475583578

http://www.wmal.com/wp-content/uploa.../jeff-lord.jpg

http://media.salon.com/2016/06/corey...i2-620x412.jpg

Raust 02-26-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1809351)
Yup, it's really difficult to come across any funnier than his advisors and supporters when they are interviewed on the evening news shows.

The Three Stooges have the comedy market cornered right now.

http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc...G?v=1475583578

http://www.wmal.com/wp-content/uploa.../jeff-lord.jpg

http://media.salon.com/2016/06/corey...i2-620x412.jpg

Ha I wasn't referring to those dip****s. More of the celebrity crowd/comedians. People such as Trevor Noah and John Oliver lack any from of comedic talent.

The Batlord 02-26-2017 02:12 PM

I don't know about Trevor Noah, but John Oliver is funny as ****, cockrocket.

OccultHawk 02-26-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1809367)
I don't know about Trevor Noah, but John Oliver is funny as ****, cockrocket.

We agree on so much it's almost like we're gay lovers!

Who are the bottom two people in those pictures?

Chula Vista 02-26-2017 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1809364)
People such as Trevor Noah and John Oliver lack any firm of comedic talent.

Now you are just sounding like an idiot. Both of those guys are brilliantly funny. They wouldn't have such high profile gigs otherwise.


The Batlord 02-26-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1809370)
We agree on so much it's almost like we're gay lovers!

Who are the bottom two people in those pictures?

I don't pay attention to politics for the most part anymore, so those people are just faces to me.

RoxyRollah 02-26-2017 02:36 PM

ahhmm.

Larry

Moe

Curly.....

say what you want but you got some winners on the dem side too.

djchameleon 02-26-2017 05:21 PM

Not even, maybe Pelosi but not even close with the other two.

Mindfulness 02-27-2017 06:47 AM

https://s27.postimg.org/pk04mzhjn/Th...658c956804.png

https://boxden.com/smilies/2dFXNT0.gif

Psy-Fi 02-27-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1808956)
Dan Rather is an icon and knows a thing or two about being politically suppressed.


He also knows a thing or two about "fake news" and how it relates to U.S. Presidents. ;)

CBS Ousts 4 For Bush Guard Story - CBS News

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather

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On September 8, 2004, Rather reported on 60 Minutes Wednesday that a series of memos critical of President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard service record had been discovered in the personal files of Lt. Bush's former commanding officer, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian.[36] Once copies of the documents were made available on the Internet, their authenticity was quickly called into question. Much of this was based on the fact that the documents were proportionally printed and displayed using other modern typographic conventions usually unavailable on military typewriters of the 1970s. The font used on the documents has characteristics that exactly match standard font features of Microsoft Word. This led to claims that the memos were forgeries.[37] The accusations then spread over the following days into mainstream media outlets including The Washington Post,[38] The New York Times,[39] and the Chicago Sun-Times.[40]

Rather and CBS initially defended the story, insisting that the documents had been authenticated by experts.[41] CBS was contradicted by some of the experts it originally cited,[42] and later reported that its source for the documents – former Texas Army National Guard officer Lt. Col. Bill Burkett – had misled the network about how he had obtained them.[43]

On September 20, CBS retracted the story. Rather stated, "If I knew then what I know now, I would not have gone ahead with the story as it was aired, and I certainly would not have used the documents in question."[44] The controversy has been referred to by some as "Memogate" and "Rathergate."[45]

Following an investigation commissioned by CBS,[46][47][48] CBS fired story producer Mary Mapes and asked three other producers connected with the story to resign. Many believe Rather's retirement was hastened by this incident.[49] On September 20, 2007, Rather was interviewed on Larry King Live commenting "Nobody has proved that they were fraudulent, much less a forgery. ... The truth of this story stands up to this day."[50]

In a 2010 issue of TV Guide, Rather's report was ranked #3 on a list of TV's ten biggest "blunders."[51]


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