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This isn't actually what happened More importantly, it's meaningless, it's a dodge It doesn't even belong in this thread
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Again, you can't have it both ways. If you, Chula, etc. are going to stick to the view that there's a possibility that Trump ever corroborated with Russia despite a lack of any hard evidence, then you need to acknowledge possibilities in regards to some of these other allegations too, especially considering what we know about the FBI and NSA's capabilities. They aren't paradigms of morality any more than Trump is: they're just a million times better at controlling their audit trail. The insinuation game works both ways, and the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Either way, the whole thing is a clusterfuck that makes both Trump and our intelligence agencies look worse than they did before.
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So the FBI had a court approved warrant to tap some suspected Russian criminals renting space on the 63rd floor in Trump Tower?
And that relates to exactly what in regards to Trump? Again, nice try at a deflect. And that poll is not a Fox News "story". It's just published poll results. Similar results have been posted by numerous sorces. Bottom line: Trumpcare is going to be a major black eye for the Donald. https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...care/21904839/ EDIT: The courts gave the FBI approval to tap ONLY the phones of those tenants. You're beginning to sound like Sean Spicer.
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I've seen all the polls. You specifically cited a "Fox News poll". Don't be obtuse.
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I cited Fox for your benefit. If I'd cited anyone else you would have immediately dismissed it. Who's the one being obtuse here. Your republican Trump boner is once again robbing your brain of blood. And don't bother with the same ole, same ole, "I'm not a republican and I don't even like Trump BS." Your posts speak louder than your denial of the tone of your posts.
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nobody care though except again, Trump supporters easily distracted by shiny objects "uhhh OBAMA YES THIS WILL WORK"
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2. I think most polls are garbage regardless of who conducts them (having done that work myself long ago in college), so if you did it for my "benefit" then you messed up. At best, they provide a fractured picture from groups that are hardly representative of anything. People are having kneejerk reactions to the AHCA (and it does need a lot of work), but nobody really wants the ACA either as it is. 3. You should try demonstrating critical thinking in regards to our government regardless of who is or who is not in power. What I'm talking about is way more serious than Trump, a guy who won partly because of timing and will very likely lose his next bid for re-election once the incompetent Democrats get their shit together. He's a symptom of a greater set of problems, and this stuff with the FBI, the NSA, etc. should illustrate that better than anything else.
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Yep, he's talking about the most recent one. But if you read the fine print on media who have "covered" this story:
"The poll, which has a 3 percent margin of error, was conducted by telephone with live interviewers from Sunday through Tuesday among a random national sample of 1,008 U.S. registered voters." That's a very small sample size, plus we don't have any demographic breakdowns or any real information on how these interviewers conducted their questions. Which is why you end up with results that say "man, in comparison to the AHCA we really love the ACA that we said we hated before" even though that makes no sense whatsoever. A lot of people who dislike the AHCA disliked the ACA as well. I think I'd like it at this point if Paul Ryan would hop on a big-ass hot air balloon and fly away, never to return. ![]()
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"Oh **** I'm getting grilled let me make some ridiculous obviously false statement as a distraction"
And everyone plays fetch with the jackass
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