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Lucem Ferre 03-26-2017 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816814)
Name 5 presidents who didn't? Kennedy probably holding the world record.

Name 5 presidents who called a female dissenter a "fat pig".

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1816814)
I mean, it's not the same as accusing reporters of being on their period when they say **** you don't like but I get where he's coming from.


You gonna read my whole comment or do you just like being outraged?

Anteater 03-26-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1816805)
Ehhhhh, I mean, yeah, it's true. But... yall make it sound like we are in a 3rd world country not enjoying the luxuries of living in an economic power house right now.

Right. Everything we talk about in this thread is pretty much 1st world problem stuff...but at the same time, people (especially Chula) need to remember that Donald Trump's presidency wasn't created in a vacuum. A BIG part of it is the result of a hypocritical dissonance where Obama says Hillary is the most qualified person for the presidency, but eight years before says "she'll say anything and do nothing". Which one is it Barack? :D

But hey, get a serious Libertarian candidate up to bat in 2020 and maybe we could say goodbye to both stupid parties forever. The likelihood of the public electing another Trump or Hillary Clinton-esque shill would go down considerably.

Anteater 03-26-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816811)
Let's see some examples of Clinton publically putting down and insultingly berating women based on their looks, demeanor, or statements.

Just because they both love pussy (and what hetero man doesn't) don't make them the same.

Ant swings and misses for the........

seriously, I'm losing count.

Is complete and total NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH ignorance typical of Trump conservatives?

Has anyone ever told you that you are the paragon of irony? You have yet to hit the ball even once...which is quite a shame. :rofl:

I'm sure Frown or someone else could dive a little deeper for you, but let's just say "Bill Clinton" and "rape allegations" have quite a history together.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1816810)
Anteater has no principles

First he was a pro buiz libertarian now he's a Bernie supporter

He's all about the cult of personality

No, you just have a short memory. I'm an amazing creature capable of all kinds of miracles, but I can't fix that for you.

Lucem Ferre 03-26-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816817)
List out the hyperbole. Be specific.

You wanna toss it out? Back it the **** up.

How big of a deal you made about the "grab her by the pussy line" how every single thing that happens gets the label 'unprecidented' how every news story you say "Trump is finnished now!'

I mean, you've been saying Trump is finnished now or done or on his way out since long before he was elected. Over things that hardly make a difference.

Oh, and lets' not forget him not wanting to attend that stupid ****ing dinner that you made a deal out of.

Oh, and all these god damned polls. The polls say Trumps approval rating is going down. Down down down down down. Okay, cool, Chula. And what's changed since when you first started saying that? Is he still president? It's just hyperbole, blowing the meaning and impact of things out of proportion in a way that you would never do with Clinton and would probably defend.

elphenor 03-26-2017 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1816815)
Nah, he just defended Trump from Chula's hyperbolic rants and you guys assumed he supported Trump because you'r not open enough to think out side of the box of identity politics so when somebody who doesn't think in your boxes says **** out side of your boxes it does not compute with you.

I guess you just aren't punk rock enough to break the rules and standards people want to box your thoughts into.



And I've gotten the impression of him being a Bernie supporter long ago with a previous discussion where I actually discussed things with him rather than the ****ty "my side is better" discussion yall like to partake in because you can't take the emotional blow to your ego in admitting that you could be wrong.

I didn't even say Trump supporter/defender here now did I

I'm taking issue with his very conservative ideological statements

The type of statements Bernie would spit at

Stop using buzzwords like "identity politics" you don't even understand what that means

Lucem Ferre 03-26-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1816826)
I didn't even say Trump supporter here now did I

I've mostly taken issues with his very conservative ideological statements

The type of statements Bernie would spit at

Stop using buzzwords like "identity politics" you don't even understand what that means

I do. I just feel as though this fits very well under it.

elphenor 03-26-2017 05:16 PM

Why do you come to this section when you know NOTHING about politics Lucem you embarrass yourself the adults are talking

djchameleon 03-26-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816800)
True (arguable), but what about these chestnuts? Every single one of them would be been standard issue with a Clinton presidency.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816725)
3. His cabinet (except for Mattis) if filled with very rich people who have vested interests in getting richer rather than helping the country.
4. He's going to damage the reputation of the US with our allies.
5. He's going to embolden our enemies with his rhetoric.
6. His policies are geared towards the wealthy at the expense of the lower class.
7. He doesn't give two ****s about the environment.
8. He's going to stack the supreme court with bible thumpers.
9. He's an embarrassment.
10. His VP thinks that evolution is a theory and wants creationism taught in schools.
11. He emboldens folks like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly.
12. He makes racists feel good about themselves.

3 is debatable, sure She might have had some but not to the extent that Trump does.

4. This one doesn't apply in the slightest unless you consider Russia our ally.

5. This one happens with all presidents regardless of the party especially when the East has such beef with Western civilization.

6. This is true of both sides it's just the left is a bit more deceptive about it and put on a bigger front like they are helping. They toss more crumbs than what the current administration is doing.

7. This isn't true.

8. Neither is this one although I feel like all of the old fogeys that get picked for Supreme Court are Christians.

9. Sure that can be said for anyone that you dislike so it's a personal taste kind of thing.

10. This one specifically doesn't fit both of them.

11. This is true. It's their jobs to be that way.

12. I'm not sure how this applies to Bill or Hillary. Maybe you can fill me in on that one.

Lucem Ferre 03-26-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1816830)
Why do you come to this section when you know NOTHING about politics Lucem you embarrass yourself the adults are talking

Yeah, adults, sure. Pretend all you want that you are "adults" "discussing" things. Looks a lot like a bunch of children arguing over who gets the last slice of pizza to me.

Anteater 03-26-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1816832)
3 is debatable, sure She might have had some but not to the extent that Trump does.

4. This one doesn't apply in the slightest unless you consider Russia our ally.

5. This one happens with all presidents regardless of the party especially when the East has such beef with Western civilization.

6. This is true of both sides it's just the left is a bit more deceptive about it and put on a bigger front like they are helping. They toss more crumbs than what the current administration is doing.

7. This isn't true.

8. Neither is this one although I feel like all of the old fogeys that get picked for Supreme Court are Christians.

9. Sure that can be said for anyone that you dislike so it's a personal taste kind of thing.

10. This one specifically doesn't fit both of them.

11. This is true. It's their jobs to be that way.

12. I'm not sure how this applies to Bill or Hillary. Maybe you can fill me in on that one.

I think you might have quoted me when I was still mid-edit. This was the final one:

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3. His cabinet (except for Mattis) if filled with very rich people who have vested interests in getting richer rather than helping the country.
4. He's going to damage the reputation of the US with our allies.
5. He's going to embolden our enemies with his rhetoric.
6. His policies are geared towards the wealthy at the expense of the lower class.
7. He doesn't give two ****s about the environment.
9. He's an embarrassment.
11. He emboldens folks like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly.
12. He makes racists feel good about themselves.
4. was in reference to Israel, Tibet, etc.

My reference to 7. is that Hillary Clinton has flip flopped on environmental issues in the past and supported TPP which has a noted track record of being anti-environmental. Just because she never said global warming was a Chinese hoax doesn't mean she's that much better on those issues. Bernie would have been better than her in this area.

My point on 12. is based on stuff she's said (African-American children 'superpredators') plus her and Bill's history during his first few years dealing with certain pieces of legislation back in the 90's, which you can read about more in detail here. https://www.thenation.com/article/hi...peoples-votes/


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