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elphenor 03-30-2017 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1818020)

And yeah this stuff is super depressing

riseagainstrocks 03-30-2017 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1817632)
Conservatism is the NEW Counter-Culture

So PJW and the InfoWars brigade get into a fight with their ideological opposites on twitter and tumblr and think he's winning a "culture war" because of his anecdotal data of being buried in positive messages from teenagers.

Got it.

Culture is certainly shifting, but at as long as Republicans, and by extension, the alt-right, consider themselves a bulwark against godless liberalism, Islamic degeneracy, and all the other buzzwords and phrases they use, aren't they claiming the center of Western culture? Using his phraseology, it seems they, by definition can't be a "counter-culture" as they're attempting to reclaim a "pure" culture as opposed to one that's been polluted by outsiders. In his view, liberalism is counter to American culture - popularity of the movement is irrelevant, especially considering the 'reclamation' identity Trumpism has engendered.

What I don't understand is how people like yourself (nonsense myopia trolling aside, you make generally interesting/cogent posts) can't separate the hysterical hyperbole of the SJWs, who I agree are obnoxious and borderline totalitarian, from the core of the animating issue, namely social libertarianism. Individual freedom to marry. Check. Individual freedom to identify as male, female, other, Check. Individual freedom to congregate with people who think like you and have discussions, marches, parties, prayer groups, etc. Check.

It's like PJW and large swaths of his fan base have seen a couple YouTube videos featuring women calling for male genocide and have determined that every self-identified liberal/feminist agrees with that; which is absolute nonsense. I'm happy to debate policy with anyone, but I'm tired of being lumped in with a vanishingly small minority of "liberals" so wrapped up in identity politics that they have become the very thing they purportedly oppose.

If you have an element of PJW's philosophy that you agree with and would like to discuss, I'd be happy to. My experience is anecdotal to be sure, but there seems to be a malicious glee taken in upsetting other people. I see the movement as one of disaffection, filled with personal grievances and lashing out at those formerly in "power" (cue *liberaltears.meme*). What am I missing?

elphenor 03-30-2017 01:33 PM

Oh I didn't see Nea "How do you know Obama isn't a Muslim" slunk back into this thread

Yeah sure neo-nazis are a counter-culture that much is true

However this ideology masquerading as conservatism is an absolute insult to it as a tradition

elphenor 03-30-2017 01:40 PM

Socks you just give him way too much credit you aren't missing anything

DwnWthVwls 03-30-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1818020)


This is excellent news. Now I don't have to fear the future, policy writing, elphenor.

elphenor 03-30-2017 01:53 PM

You think we have a migrant problem now wait until climate change induced drought and famine pushes developing countries over the edge

I'm posting a lot rn sitting in my car before work bored

DwnWthVwls 03-30-2017 02:03 PM

I don't think we have a migrant problem. That's just you putting words in my mouth because we have different takes on the proper way to handle it and you like to draw false comparisons between Germany and the US.

I'd stay and bicker with you, but I have to go to class. Have fun at work.

Chula Vista 03-30-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1818096)
Yeah I might not be much of a socialist, but I still understand that capitalism presumes a world that it can infinitely exploit.

You have to have have-nots in order to have haves.

Have.

elphenor 03-30-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1818145)
You have to have have-nots in order to have haves.

Have.

Was it Paul Ryan who said he preferred to see the world as "haves and soon-to-be haves" I can't remember but goddamn they think we're stupid

All must go to gulag

djchameleon 03-30-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1817836)
Trump to Sign Bill Repealing Obama-Era Internet Privacy Rules | Fortune.com

Prepare for an overflowing spam folder and a rise in identity theft.

To follow this up, come mid terms you guys that do actually bother to vote better remember these names.

Names of Senators and Representatives and how much they received from lobbyists for Media companies

Also of course Blackburn got up and said that non-sense speech of hers because she got paid 84k.


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