I'm not a big fan of Spicer, but he certainly has his moments.

He's just lying though wow so impressive

It's his job to spin for the president and he's had so much practice at this point I guess he'd better be good at it

I know what he is doing. Like I said, not a fan of his but his delivery was on point though.

I think they missed an opportunity by not hiring Don King as Trump's press secretary.

^ No problem. You prompted me to clarify something I was vaguely confused about. Thanks for that :thumb:

And with Trump, another day means another sinister development:-

Van Jones: Trump may have signed Earth's death warrant (Opinion) - CNN.com

I still hope this guy comes back and clarifies his **** and run post

You know you're in for a Kitchen Table doozy anytime a statement starts with "Well both sides..."

Like something you might not understand about traditional John Locke Liberalism is that he lived in a world with an abundance of free land to anyone who wanted to settle it

So yeah property rights were sacred

But what happens when all the land is already owned? What good is that right now?

When you start asking these questions you arrive at the next evolution of Liberalism

Not only that, but a world where wilderness was seen as a waste, and where settled land, which had been altered and made useful to humans, was the only worthwhile land.

Very true

I'm huge on the traditional political theorists but you have to put them in their time and place to understand their philosophy

I could have been giving too much credit assuming Zappa dude is familiar with any of this anyhow

Yeah I might not be much of a socialist, but I still understand that capitalism presumes a world that it can infinitely exploit.