That's fine. I agree with you, I hate big pharma as well, but that greed is still not the primary factor in the overall health of the US pop that you are making it out to be (or at least I haven't been shown any convincing evidence of this).

Wasn't really my point, especially since a lot of suicides are committed by middle aged or older people. Just not a subject to be taken flippantly.

Agreed, just bringing it back to Kiii getting upset about Goofs earlier comment (he wasn't wrong).

That's a condescending post from someone who's trying to argue that lack of healthcare doesn't impact our health.

Please quote where I said it doesn't impact our health? Since you can't because I never said it I'll explain again:

Thank you for thoroughly reading my position before commenting.

I already covered this when I explained in areas where healthcare doesn't even exist healthier populations exist, and you argued that they get free healthcare (which wouldn't even qualify as healthcare in any 1st world country btw). I then went on to say:

I also made a point which explained how taking some personal responsibility for your health, ie not smoking, reducing meat consumption, alcohol abuse, etc.. will help reduce all the largest problems we rely on healthcare for (and what it profits from) WHILE ALSO being more financial feasible. So yeah...

The selective reading skills some of you have is really quite impressive.

You know what our ****ty healthcare system should largely be blamed for? Needless deaths, lack of treatment for the poor, overuse of treatments which increase immunity in viruses/bacteria, prescription drug abuse, etc.. NOT the general health of the population.

Read this:

You're grasping at straws trying to argue a bunch of bull****. However you worded it you were saying that healthcare is more or less irrelevant to health. I don't need to see stats on some Amazonian tribe to get it.

Tell me that when you get strep throat and can't afford to go to the clinic.

Okay, right after you tell me what strep throat has to do with population health.