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elphenor 04-10-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1821880)
This is the first time I'll have to disagree with you in this thread. As I see it, there goes a theoretical straight line from Marx/Engels to Lenin regarding the dictatorship of the proletariat. Trotsky and Lenin were pretty much in agreement here. Have you read The State and Revolution?

Trostky dissents from Lenin in his focus on "permanent revolution" basically the absolute anti-one state solution

the idea is world wide revolution by the working class

on a spectrum you could say Trosky is the absolute most leftist interpretation of communism Lenin is in the middle and Stalin is a fascist

elphenor 04-10-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1821936)

Only good Hillary Clinton meme I've ever seen btw

Key 04-10-2017 03:44 PM

Please continue with the Hillary memes.

Goofle 04-10-2017 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1821913)
Goofle, I'm just losing so much respect for you. How can you mouth such nonsense? What about Jesus Christ? How many deaths is he responsible for? More than Marx?

I already explained the post above. Maybe I wasn't specifically correct, but the point was to state how awful the results of Karl Marx's writings have been. It's not that hard to see what I was saying.

Chula Vista 04-10-2017 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1822075)
It's not that hard to see what I was saying.

It kinda is. You're glossing over a bunch of stuff and just zeroing in on points that fit your narrative.

I also use to think you were cool. Ahhh, the salad days.

elphenor 04-10-2017 05:45 PM

It's only correct in a loose historical sense it's not much of a statement at all in that case like Adam Smith is responsible for western imperialism

Is the genocide of native Americans capitalisms fault etc

elphenor 04-10-2017 05:52 PM

Is the serb who killed Franz Ferdinand individually responsible for every death of WW1 and WW2

Key 04-10-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1822111)
Is the serb who killed Franz Ferdinand individually responsible for every death of WW1 and WW2

Didn't they release that one album?

OccultHawk 04-10-2017 05:53 PM

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Is the genocide of native Americans capitalisms fault
Yes.

OccultHawk 04-10-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1822111)
Is the serb who killed Franz Ferdinand individually responsible for every death of WW1 and WW2

No.


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