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rostasi 05-15-2017 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 1835906)
Feelings are beating facts. For everyone.

Well, for many people, it seems. I've been saying this for a long time ...
and it's not just concerning various Trumpisms.

Only about 18% of the US population voted for this jackoff,
but 100% will have to deal with the consequences.

Anteater 05-15-2017 09:02 PM

A toast to the next four years!

Neapolitan 05-15-2017 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1835924)
A toast to the next four years!

Chula Vista 05-16-2017 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1835878)

But Pence was good governor, just ask Chula.

I'm regretting that post more and more with each passing day.

Lucem Ferre 05-16-2017 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835748)
When it comes to life expectancy the very stress of being poor will take years of your life not to mention the poor healthcare

life expectancy in the US for the working class is declining for the first time since the AIDS epidemic

So is this a "personal responsibility" issue or maybe, just maybe, we treat our workers like **** in this country

We need proven statistical evidence of this. Not just your word.

Only thing I can come up with (searching the net) is people are killing themselves because they can't deal with the stress. Which is highly debatable on weather or not that has anything to do with healthcare or the over all health of our people.

If you desperately want to stretch the goal posts you could say that overpriced healthcare is having an effect on mental health, but other than that I don't see our medical system having any direct impact on how unhealthy American's are.

Treating workers like **** doesn't force them to eat so many french fries. And **** most of yall hypocrites because of how much I've heard people bad mouth Batlord for working at Burger King.

What your pointing out is an economic and social issue rather than a healthcare issue.

elphenor 05-16-2017 01:51 AM

There are a myriad of health concerns related to stress, obesity, poor nutrition, "eat so many french fries" (sic) only being one of them

One other problem is what I mentioned earlier, that being the Heroin epidemic

As to what role the fact that many Americans often can not see a doctor until it's too late plays, I suspect it is a critical factor, preventative care can greatly reduce a lot of these issues as well as healthcare costs themselves being a major cause of stress (the number 1 cause of bankruptcy in the US)

DwnWthVwls 05-16-2017 03:29 AM

Still waiting to see evidence of this "great reduction" which requires people to actually follow their doctors recommendation after leaving the office. Preventative care only works for those who listen, which from 30ish years of anecdotal evidence is hardly ever the case.

elphenor 05-16-2017 04:30 AM

all medicine requires the patient to listen now doesn't it

if it were true that they didn't, I'm not sure why we'd have doctors at all

DwnWthVwls 05-16-2017 04:34 AM

Preventative practices require people to make lifestyle changes not take pills until they feel better. Stop being so lazy, your word vomit is boring.

Im patiently waiting for the day you stop blindly throwing darts at a wall of oppressors hoping one sticks.

elphenor 05-16-2017 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1836034)
Preventative practices require people to make lifestyle changes

This is just false by definition, or I guess I could say "not necessarily true"

preventative treatments can include surgical procedures,screenings, vaccinations, blood-pressure tests etc.

and indeed help with poor diet, smoking, alcoholism, depression etc.

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