That's because the shock value went down. Media goes where the money is, and nobody is interested in learning about the newest bombing in a place that always has bombing. Especially since it's not here. Same reason a young pretty white girl is more likely to be reported when she goes missing than anybody else. Because people are interested in young pretty white girls.
Neapolitan
04-10-2017 06:48 PM
Tarek Fatah warns USA, Israel and India about terrorist Pakistan
I'm not challenging rostasi's claims; in fact, I'm not even interested in debating. I just dislike what Lisna refers to as "slinging statistics," especially when they're cherry-picked. Actually, I thought his post was one of the best in this thread. Too bad he didn't write it or cite it. :laughing:
^ That expression sounded good to me at the time, P_S, but to be honest I now rather regret using it. After all, how else do you back up a debating point but with statistics? So I feel perhaps I owe posters in general and rostasi in particular an apology on that point.
On the topic of religion, my own experience and attitude is very close to Trollheart's, esp when he distinguishes between his tolerance of inoffensive, faithful people and his dislike of their core beliefs. (At least, that's what I understand his posts to be saying.)
On the topic of bigotry, yes, it's distressing to see that some members are extrapolating rather too fast from a group of religious fanatics to huge swathes of people who are innocent, but somehow viewed as guilty by association.
In a thread that has its acrimonious low points, I thought these were some of the more credit-worthy moments so far:-
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Originally Posted by Frownland
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I wasn't expecting anybody to bring up the Spanish Inquisition.
( ^ I hadn't seen that in years, so I was pleased to see that it still looks so good.)
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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
(Post 1821833)
Thought of an analogy that might help separate the issues.
Guns are a tool that serves the purpose of its user. Whether it's to take a life or save one for instance. Guns can create a common bond and were important in enforcing order when civilization got a bit rocky. When a person uses a gun to kill a bunch of people, most rationale people blame the person who use a gun in a way that 99.9% of others never would. That person was probably crazy. After all, you know a bunch of people with guns and they would never do that. Hell, you have a gun and you'd never do that!
Replace the word gun in the sentence above, with religion.
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Originally Posted by rostasi
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Take a flat-earther in a boat around the Earth and, at best, you'll convince him that the Earth is cylindrical. It's easy to give up.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
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Terrorist attacks are caused mostly by nerds that can't get laid.
Trollheart
04-11-2017 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic
(Post 1822241)
^ That expression sounded good to me at the time, P_S, but to be honest I now rather regret using it. After all, how else do you back up a debating point but with statistics? So I feel perhaps I owe posters in general and rostasi in particular an apology on that point.
On the topic of religion, my own experience and attitude is very close to Trollheart's, esp when he distinguishes between his tolerance of inoffensive, faithful people and his dislike of their core beliefs. (At least, that's what I understand his posts to be saying.)
Just so you know, Lisna, yes, you are right, that's what I was saying. I'm happy for anyone to follow any religion they want, even Christianity, if they feel they get something out of it. If I don't like its core message, then I don't follow the religion, but that doesn't mean nobody else could/should.
Now, if someone started a religion that specifically encouraged its followers to kill people (Islam does not do this; that's down to interpretation and manipulation. You can do the same, as has been pointed out, with the Bible) then I would certainly have a problem with that religion, but again I would not want it banned. Freedom of expression and the freedom to practice whatever faith you wish to are or should be inalienable rights. Even Satanists have a right to rap with the Devil if they want. May not make them bad people, or it may, but that's their choice. But I certainly would not subscribe to the beliefs of such a religion, while accepting that others are at liberty to do so.
