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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1843236)

Who is your avatar and why?

Who? The guy who most believe was the Zodiac killer, Arthur Leigh Allen.

Why? Cause I just the movie Zodiac.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1843238)

Who? The guy who most believe was the Zodiac killer, Arthur Leigh Allen.

Why? Cause I just the movie Zodiac.

****ing Christ this forum lol

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1843160)

I guess going back to the post that sparked the convo, you're good.

The low IQ of the radical converts in question can reflect greater factors like you suggest, such as poverty (no access to education) or lack of infrastructure which could lead them to more drastic measures. I think that's why it's so common in war torn or 3rd world countries, and is likely the reason why terrorism has the highest death toll in the least stable Middle East and African countries.

this is a common assumption about islamic extremists, however there have been numerous studies conducted on the issue since 9/11 which suggest the exact opposite: islamic extremists are statistically more likely to be wealthy and well educated than their non extremist counterparts.

i can't post links but here's a few excerpts from the guardian 2016 study on ISIS recruits

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Recruits to Islamic militant groups are likely to be well educated and relatively wealthy, with those aspiring to be suicide bombers among the best off, a study by the World Bank has found.

The research, based on internal records from the Islamic State group, will reinforce the growing conclusion among specialists that there is no obvious link between poverty or educational levels and radicalisation.

The data, leaked by a disaffected former member of Isis in March, includes basic information on 3,803 foreign recruits from all over the Islamic world and Europe who joined the organisation between early 2013 and late 2014, when the flow of volunteers to the organisation reached a peak.

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The educational level of recruits from north Africa or the Middle East was significantly greater than that of most of their compatriots, the researchers found.

“A large fraction have gone on to study at university … Recruits from Africa, south and east Asia and the Middle East are significantly more educated than individuals from their cohort in their region of origin,” the report said.

The recruits were also asked by Isis what role they hoped to play within the group. The proportions of those who wanted to be administrators and “suicide fighters” increased with education, the report’s authors noted.

Neither inequality nor poverty was a driver of involvement in violent extremism, and wealthier countries were more likely to supply foreign recruits for Isis, the report found.

“In countries with a large Muslim population, low degrees of religiosity, low levels of trust in religious institutions and strong government and social control of religion seem to be risk factors of radicalisation,” the report said.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1843238)

Who? The guy who most believe was the Zodiac killer, Arthur Leigh Allen.

Why? Cause I just the movie Zodiac.

Usually members have avatars people they love, or show off they're a fan of them. A. that guy creeps me out B. I can't fathom why you picked a serial killer for an avatar. First you didn't like Shoegaze, then I notice you don't like people talking seriously and candidly about terrorism even despite the person's compassion for victims when they bring up the topic. Now you idolize a serial killer. I hope the muslims will distance themselves from you. I mean I certainly wouldn't want a Shoegazing-hating, Serial Killer-loving, Robert Plant-wannabe coming to my defense.

dude don't jump balls deep into the same convo you always have it gives u away

dude i aint one to fly under the radar

just wanted to give you access to the truth

You've told me about it before. Peach out bro.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1843244)

I'm not a serial killer lover but I find them interesting in a "how can a human do that" sort of way.

This guy is really interesting in that he not only alluded capture, but actively taunted the police with clues. They questioned him and were pretty sure he was the guy but just never had enough evidence to charge him.

And I'm a Jimmy Page-wannabe dummy.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1843249)

he wants me to skype him which I would find uncomfortable

maybe I link him an email address

but I'm finding it super amusing that he reads this everyday probably raging away and can't respond

You are uncomfortable attempting to defend your position?

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1843250)

The kinda of people I find interesting in a "how can a human do that" sort of way are guys who skate board off a roof and do a back flip before they into dive into a pool - not so much serial killers. Couldn't you superimposed a red circle with a line through it on top of his picture? Kinda let the rest of the world know you're not his protégé.