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Obviously it's a tall order. The sad thing is, when the threat comes from the Nazis or the Soviets we always rise to the occasion. We did more than what would be required to develop sound renewable energy. Yet since the threat is abstract and not at the end of a bad guys gun, we can't do it?

It's very possible we won't. I just wish that at least the people who are supposedly concerned about climate change (Democrats) would try this approach. Instead they brag about "taking the fossil fuel companies to task" and "joining the Paris accords." Bunch of pandering, mindless scum.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2069754)

Uh... yeah. That's exactly it. The Nazis and Soviets were threats that we could shoot, or talk about and plan about shooting. Hitting things with sticks is humanity's bread and butter. Abstract threats are confusing and don't have obvious solutions. We can't even deal with our pattern recognition instincts that make us like "music" also making us think that all powerful deities exist.

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It's very possible we won't. I just wish that at least the people who are supposedly concerned about climate change (Democrats) would try this approach. Instead they brag about "taking the fossil fuel companies to task" and "joining the Paris accords." Bunch of pandering, mindless scum.

Yeah, Democrats are ****. Welcome to the club. Congrats on grasping that obvious thing.

I wasn't saying it was some sort of revelation. It's just an obvious solution we continue to ignore for frustrating reasons. So **** trying to come up with something else, and **** bull**** talk about taking it to the fossil fuel industry.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2069765)

when oil companies influence our elections

and these representatives would be the ones to initiate this project

how do you expect this to go down without first chipping at their influence

heh.. You're going to hurt them enough through taxes to minimize their lobby before you have an energy replacement?

That's far more far fetched than just funding either the DOD or NASA to work on it.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2069801)

just think the "take on the fossil fuels industry" type language has a place

that's what it'll require either way

I agree in principle

Developing alternative energy is taking them on

Carbon taxes is putting up a toll booth the way to work

If we reduce the cost of thrust, we can make space our new trash can and that solves the issue of unusable nuclear waste.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2069804)

If we reduce the cost of thrust, we can make space our new trash can and that solves the issue of unusable nuclear waste.

If you reduce the cost of thrust then WWWP will be the cheapest ho on the planet.

Sorry.

Even though fossil fuel industries have a lot of clout, change is a-comin'

Here are some stats about the sales of Electric Vehicles (2018) :-

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-...les-prev-1.jpg

Notice who is leading the switch to electric vehicles? Scandanavia and China. Of course the fossil fuel industries won't change overnight, but there is a global trend slowly turning to more eco-friendly vehicles:-

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It took five years to sell the first million electric cars. In 2018, it took only six months.

Is it too little too late? Maybe, but on environmental issues you have to look for good news where you can because the overall picture is so bleak.

(The graph and quote are from visualcapitalist.com.)

Where does the electricity come from?

^ I don't know, OH. I'd like to say wind farms, but probably not.