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OccultHawk 08-01-2019 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2069582)
I'm doubting that grand a month actually gets saved for an evacuation

plus nobody wants Florida Man to evacuate to their state

Today’s the first of the month. If the cat five was 100 miles out I’d have the cash in hand.

jwb 08-01-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2069584)
the answer is all of the above
we should be investing in renewable energy as well as looking to make serious cuts in emissions

renewable energy would lead to serious cuts in emissions, but we are at the point where we need carbon trapping technology to offset the damage already done

Carbon taxing is ineffective and does nothing other that slow the economy.

jwb 08-01-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2069586)
Yeah. I personally don’t think it’s possible to transition from fossil fuel without a massive die off. It’s the exploitation of millions of years of stored solar energy that made the population explosion possible in the first place.

And if you’re not even discussing nuclear power it’s not even an honest conversation from the get-go.

I think we can probably do so, assuming there is a good affordable alternative to fossil fuels

Nuclear is a better alternative to fossil fuels but long term we need something better, unless someone comes up with a better plan for dealing with the waste

elphenor 08-01-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2069585)
Can't trust them with the money so they don't deserve it amiright

I don't think it is the answer to this particular problem

jwb 08-01-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2069588)
Today’s the first of the month. If the cat five was 100 miles out I’d have the cash in hand.

I would've thought the anarchist in you would just view a hurricane as a good looting opportunity.

OccultHawk 08-01-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2069601)
I would've thought the anarchist in you would just view a hurricane as a good looting opportunity.

I wanted to clarify that. I don’t want to be ungovernable; I want to be a person that doesn’t need to be governed. And I behave accordingly.

elphenor 08-01-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2069589)

Carbon taxing is ineffective and does nothing other that slow the economy.

I'm for removing the profit motive entirely from fossil fuels aka nationalize them

money currently going to shareholders/Board of directors is all redirected to Green Energy

we execute every CEO just cuz

jwb 08-01-2019 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2069604)
I wanted to clarify that. I don’t want to be ungovernable; I want to be a person that doesn’t need to be governed. And I behave accordingly.

it was just a joke anyway. I never knew blacks to be great swimmers until Katrina hit and I saw people doing the breast stroke with a flat screen strapped to their back.



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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2069607)
I'm for removing the profit motive entirely from fossil fuels aka nationalize them

money currently going to shareholders/Board of directors is all redirected to Green Energy

we execute every CEO just cuz

I don't care about the fossil fuel companies but carbon taxes go far beyond them which is why they hurt the economy.

Basically I mostly see it as a distraction where as the real solution lies in technology that renders the current infrastructure irrelevant.

elphenor 08-01-2019 12:31 PM

I agree and disagree

yes they hurt the economy

but they also reduce carbon emissions

I think it's a tough call

jwb 08-01-2019 12:39 PM

How much do they reduce them by, really? I don't think they even come close to making a meaningful dent.


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